― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:00 (twenty years ago)
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)
― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)
It totally kicked @$$ and I'm going to see it again!
― Michael Vanier, Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)
― Soukesian, Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)
Aaronovitch or Littlejohn, surely?
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 19 March 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 19 March 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)
it was an especially good hollywood superhero fantasy
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:10 (twenty years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:13 (twenty years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:15 (twenty years ago)
most people seemed to think it was too slow. i overheard one guy saying "natalie portman's tits can save most bad movies, but ..."
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:23 (twenty years ago)
-- Chuck_Tatum (sappy_papp...), March 18th, 2006.
um, you do know that the US gov't has experimented on unwitting citizens many times in the past, right? do the tuskeegee experiments ring a bell? the radiation experiments that clinton belatedly apologised for? or the cloud of bacteria sprayed over san francisco by the navy? MK-ULtra experiments?
but you're right, the movie was kinda "meh" though
― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:32 (twenty years ago)
ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?That's a tough one. "She's The Man" is being called this generation's "Mean Girls," so...
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)
She's the man, obv.
― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)
-- vahid (vfoz...), March 18th, 2006 9:10 PM. (vahid) (later) (link)
That's the problem, though--IT WASN'T. It should have been, and it could have been, but it wasn't. Batman Begins was easily FAR superior. In fact, as a hollywood comic book movie, it was decidedly mediocre. The direction, cinematography, production design, and most of the acting (Stepehen Fry, Stephen Rea being the notible exceptions, Hugo Weaving gets points for trying VERY HARD) was decidedly uninteresting. Especially the directing. CLOSE-UPS ON FACES MEANS IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS.
As for film vs. comic books, it was as good as adaptation as one could expect, they just didn't focus on what *I* would have liked to have seen a focus on--namely, the questionable morality of V's actions (most notably changed in his broadcast to the populace, where he sided with the people instead of blaming them for their government) and the "it could happen IN YOUR COUNTRY" air of the government in the comic. I felt the "OMG A CONSPIRACY" explanation was in place to make it seem less of an all-too-real threat of elected fascism and simply the well-planned coup of a few people. Honestly, all those reviewers bitching about the "anti-US/UK sentiment" are really hypersensitive and should never be allowed to read the comic lest their poor little brains explode for being so offended. I felt that the absence of Rose Almond was SORELY missed, as it kind of took all the emotional strength out of the "this government sucks" argument. Also making her parents into "activists" instead of just people with "the wrong kind of past" made the government less scary.
In conclusion, Stephen Fry stole the fucking movie away from everyone else and ran with it, I am mad V didn't show Delia his face, and that whole "love story" thing was gross.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:03 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)
i got bored w/ "batman begins" about 2/3rd of the way through. let's stop acting like "batman begins" is the "citizen kane" of superhero movies. there was a bunch of garbage in that film, too.
"v for vendetta" = "darkman" done right!
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:15 (twenty years ago)
The best superhero movie thus far (haven't seen V yet) is Hellboy. Even that wasn't as good the second time around, it lost a lot going from big-screen to DVD.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)
b-b-b-b-but...he was a NINJA. :(((((
Oh and props to Hellboy! So underrated.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:23 (twenty years ago)
― adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)
And, of course, Howard the Duck (or did the comic book come after?).
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:25 (twenty years ago)
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:28 (twenty years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 08:04 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 11:47 (twenty years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 March 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)
It predates the film by about a decade or so. My cousin Alan drew a few issues in the mid-70s.
― phil d. (Phil D.), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)
― Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (Barima), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)
Okay, I accept the likely possibility that that speech is worded differently in the book (which I haven't read) but what part of "if you want to know who to blame, you should look in a mirror" was ambiguous in that speech?
Seriously, do some of you EVER pay attention to ANYTHING you watch or hear????
― Dan (Wow) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)
-- Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (b4rim4_...), March 19th, 2006.
oh in this one she magically changes instead of dressing up?
― latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)
― Dan (And "O", Heh) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)
HA HA! Big time! I knew he seemed familiar.
― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)
The sequence with Evey's torture and the note and everything was terrific, and I loved all the scenes with the crusty, disinterested cop (who is never revealed to have a heart of gold or anything).
(Also noted that despite the 30-year time difference and apparent destruction of continental Europe or somesuch, they were still making 2006 BMWs. Fascist cops drive like this...)
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)
-- Dan (Wow) Perry ([email protected]), March 19th, 2006 4:08 PM. (Dan Perry) (later) (link)
I DID hear that line, but the overall tone of the speech was drastically different in the book, which had a much more scathing indictment of the populace. I didn't mean to say he let the population off entirely, just that the general focus of the speech had changed from an indictment/warning to a call for an uprising.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)
anyway like i said above i liked that movie V avoided some of the really shitty stuff in the original, but overall... i dunno. despite really liking a lot of it, the way they went with the ending still bothers me.
and the best superhero movies are:
supermanblade ONE
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)
― keyth (keyth), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:23 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)