V For Vendetta: The Movie

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I didn't like this very much at all. VERY forced, and Portman was terrible.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:00 (twenty years ago)

i liked it a lot

kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:04 (twenty years ago)

I liked it okay. I'm still trying to decide why I didn't like it a lot -- probably the accumulation of small dumbnesses and inconsistencies. But overall it was pretty good.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 18 March 2006 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like it at all, except for Fry and Rea. Politically, I found it pretty suspicious. It's like a Y2K-bunker-mentalist's fantasy movie ("The government are poisoning our water supply!").

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

The best comic adaptation I have ever seen.

It totally kicked @$$ and I'm going to see it again!

Michael Vanier, Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

wow this movie was totally shitty. and i loved the comic.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Ladies and gentlemen, it looks like the panel is split right down the middle on this one.

Soukesian, Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

I really am baffled that anyone sees anything special about this movie.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Sunday, 19 March 2006 00:43 (twenty years ago)

Anyone else think the guy playing the ranting TV journalist had modelled his look and mannerisms rather closely on Christopher Hitchens?

Aaronovitch or Littlejohn, surely?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 19 March 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Which movies do you think its like, Twilight?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 19 March 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)

I really am baffled that anyone sees anything special about this movie.
-- The Brainwasher (teignmout...) (webmail), March 18th, 2006 4:43 PM. (Twilight)

it was an especially good hollywood superhero fantasy

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:10 (twenty years ago)

NUH UH!

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:13 (twenty years ago)

with an especially good comic as storyboard / script material

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:15 (twenty years ago)

i have to admit, it was a bit deflating to hear reactions on the way out. i think half the theatre hated it.

most people seemed to think it was too slow. i overheard one guy saying "natalie portman's tits can save most bad movies, but ..."

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)

THAT GUY OTM

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

she has tits!?!

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:23 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like it at all, except for Fry and Rea. Politically, I found it pretty suspicious. It's like a Y2K-bunker-mentalist's fantasy movie ("The government are poisoning our water supply!").

-- Chuck_Tatum (sappy_papp...), March 18th, 2006.

um, you do know that the US gov't has experimented on unwitting citizens many times in the past, right? do the tuskeegee experiments ring a bell? the radiation experiments that clinton belatedly apologised for? or the cloud of bacteria sprayed over san francisco by the navy? MK-ULtra experiments?

but you're right, the movie was kinda "meh" though

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:28 (twenty years ago)

vahid, quit clownsteppin.

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

(btw i'm not implying that "y2k bunker-mentalists" are right about anything, just that the idea of the gov't doing horrible shit to innocent people isn't at all crazy talk)

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:32 (twenty years ago)

And these are Nazis, after all.


ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?
That's a tough one. "She's The Man" is being called this generation's "Mean Girls," so...

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

isn't that basically a remake of Just One of the Guys?

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:50 (twenty years ago)

ilx, help me decide: should i go see this or "she's the man"?

She's the man, obv.

My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

it was an especially good hollywood superhero fantasy

-- vahid (vfoz...), March 18th, 2006 9:10 PM. (vahid) (later) (link)

That's the problem, though--IT WASN'T. It should have been, and it could have been, but it wasn't. Batman Begins was easily FAR superior. In fact, as a hollywood comic book movie, it was decidedly mediocre. The direction, cinematography, production design, and most of the acting (Stepehen Fry, Stephen Rea being the notible exceptions, Hugo Weaving gets points for trying VERY HARD) was decidedly uninteresting. Especially the directing. CLOSE-UPS ON FACES MEANS IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS.

As for film vs. comic books, it was as good as adaptation as one could expect, they just didn't focus on what *I* would have liked to have seen a focus on--namely, the questionable morality of V's actions (most notably changed in his broadcast to the populace, where he sided with the people instead of blaming them for their government) and the "it could happen IN YOUR COUNTRY" air of the government in the comic. I felt the "OMG A CONSPIRACY" explanation was in place to make it seem less of an all-too-real threat of elected fascism and simply the well-planned coup of a few people. Honestly, all those reviewers bitching about the "anti-US/UK sentiment" are really hypersensitive and should never be allowed to read the comic lest their poor little brains explode for being so offended. I felt that the absence of Rose Almond was SORELY missed, as it kind of took all the emotional strength out of the "this government sucks" argument. Also making her parents into "activists" instead of just people with "the wrong kind of past" made the government less scary.

In conclusion, Stephen Fry stole the fucking movie away from everyone else and ran with it, I am mad V didn't show Delia his face, and that whole "love story" thing was gross.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:03 (twenty years ago)

I loved it tho I am kind of y2k-bunkerish.

adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:04 (twenty years ago)

well ... i'm a big fan of both "batman begins" and alan moore's book. i def liked the book better (how can the film compete?) but i thought the high points of "v" were better than the high points of "batman begins", though.

i got bored w/ "batman begins" about 2/3rd of the way through. let's stop acting like "batman begins" is the "citizen kane" of superhero movies. there was a bunch of garbage in that film, too.

"v for vendetta" = "darkman" done right!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:15 (twenty years ago)

i didn't even read adam's message. YES! BROS!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:15 (twenty years ago)

Batman Begins was pretty much crap.

The best superhero movie thus far (haven't seen V yet) is Hellboy. Even that wasn't as good the second time around, it lost a lot going from big-screen to DVD.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

let's stop acting like "batman begins" is the "citizen kane" of superhero movies.

b-b-b-b-but...he was a NINJA. :(((((

Oh and props to Hellboy! So underrated.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

Batman Begins gets a free pass due to ninjas. V is not my favorite Moore book largely because of the way it's dated and all the stupid anarchy stuff--movie fixed a lot of that. My friends disliked the slo-mo knife porn. I dug it.

adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:23 (twenty years ago)

and best superhero movie = blade 2

adam (adam), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:24 (twenty years ago)

I always forget Blade started out as a comic book, so yeah that's definitely in the running.

And, of course, Howard the Duck (or did the comic book come after?).

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:25 (twenty years ago)

I'm on page 70 of the graphic novel, and most of it so far has been kind of sad. The pop-cult references, the whining, the overt Phantom of the Opera symbolism, the pedophile Bishop (yo, they're Episcopalians not Catholics!), etc..

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 06:28 (twenty years ago)

best superhero movie = buckaroo banzai

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 19 March 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

WHAT BOUT BLANKMAN

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 19 March 2006 08:04 (twenty years ago)

hahaha you read my mind chaki you read my mind

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 11:47 (twenty years ago)

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/blankman.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 March 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I saw it today and thought it was very good.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 19 March 2006 18:46 (twenty years ago)

And, of course, Howard the Duck (or did the comic book come after?).

It predates the film by about a decade or so. My cousin Alan drew a few issues in the mid-70s.

phil d. (Phil D.), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

Just One Of The Guys isn't the flick about the chick who magically changes gender, is it?

Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (Barima), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)

most notably changed in his broadcast to the populace, where he sided with the people instead of blaming them for their government

Okay, I accept the likely possibility that that speech is worded differently in the book (which I haven't read) but what part of "if you want to know who to blame, you should look in a mirror" was ambiguous in that speech?

Seriously, do some of you EVER pay attention to ANYTHING you watch or hear????

Dan (Wow) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Just One Of The Guys isn't the flick about the chick who magically changes gender, is it?

-- Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (b4rim4_...), March 19th, 2006.

oh in this one she magically changes instead of dressing up?

latebloomer is a belly with a guy pierce in it (latebloomer), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:10 (twenty years ago)

"She's The One" is a remake/based on "Twelfth Night", hence comparisons to "Clueless" and "10 Things I Hate About You".

Dan (And "O", Heh) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Anyone else think the guy playing the ranting TV journalist had modelled his look and mannerisms rather closely on Christopher Hitchens?

HA HA! Big time! I knew he seemed familiar.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

It was good, but I thought a lot of the cod-anarchist philosophizing and (most especially) Evey's closing speech/voiceover ("he was... ALL OF US") were completely unnecessary. In their stead, it could have used a little more definition on the events leading up to 'the present' (the timeline of bio-experiment concentration camps to taking power to more resettlement camps etc. was confusing in the movie, but not what I've seen in the book). Evey's family backstory didn't make sense either - they became political after the St. Mary's massacre - but against whom (the fascists presumably, but they weren't in power - and why?). How did that fit into the timeline?

The sequence with Evey's torture and the note and everything was terrific, and I loved all the scenes with the crusty, disinterested cop (who is never revealed to have a heart of gold or anything).

(Also noted that despite the 30-year time difference and apparent destruction of continental Europe or somesuch, they were still making 2006 BMWs. Fascist cops drive like this...)

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:45 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I accept the likely possibility that that speech is worded differently in the book (which I haven't read) but what part of "if you want to know who to blame, you should look in a mirror" was ambiguous in that speech?

Seriously, do some of you EVER pay attention to ANYTHING you watch or hear????

-- Dan (Wow) Perry ([email protected]), March 19th, 2006 4:08 PM. (Dan Perry) (later) (link)

I DID hear that line, but the overall tone of the speech was drastically different in the book, which had a much more scathing indictment of the populace. I didn't mean to say he let the population off entirely, just that the general focus of the speech had changed from an indictment/warning to a call for an uprising.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

i just hungoverly watched batman begins this afternoon... it holds up pretty well on video. although the first hour, before he's batman, is way way better than the second hour, when he is.

anyway like i said above i liked that movie V avoided some of the really shitty stuff in the original, but overall... i dunno. despite really liking a lot of it, the way they went with the ending still bothers me.

and the best superhero movies are:

superman
blade ONE

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 19 March 2006 22:56 (twenty years ago)

you know maybe it wasn't Lucas' writing and directing that made the Star Wars redos so horrible it might have all been down to Portman. She's dreadful. I could hear the gears grinding in her head while she was trying to think of which stiff line to deliver next. The whole thing was a mess but she stood out as especially awful.

keyth (keyth), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes, she was awful. Everything else about this film I'm not sure about. It's bad. It's good. It's one of those.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

(The "whoever you are, I love you" thing made sense to me, but then I'm a sap)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 19 March 2006 23:49 (twenty years ago)


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