Curious: did your friend say (or given confidentiality, maybe just implied) if the parents had any second thoughts about it all?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
he said the parents tend to be unrepentant and found it frustrating that ppl hold the advice of their yoga instructors in higher esteem than that of medical professionals
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
Those same parents will yet wonder why it is their offspring never call...
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
There have been a couple of cases in my county.
I went to check if they were in any of the local school districts, and I found someone posting "I wonder if the increase in sickness is due to illegals attending our schools without the proper shots?"
― tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
ffs
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
Vh1 and NBC just gave her chat shows, btw
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
"Whoop It Up! with Jenny McCarthy"
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
Will there reach a tipping point wrt to number of cases where we can criminalize not getting your child vaccinated?
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
ha that will never happen, not without half the country dying
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
The Whooping Dead
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
jenny mccarthy's the stand
― omar little, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
I was being facetious, but, yeah, since my son was born this has ratcheted up my anger at these people.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
ditto
― beachville, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:20 PM (2 hours ago)
hahaha
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
dying
also thread title change?
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
NO.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 23 February 2012 09:39 (twelve years ago) link
aww
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
it is p lol tho
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol dan
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
Can't we just give these people hologram bracelets that protect infants from autism. btw these bracelets only work in conjunctions with innoculation
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
Brilliant.
They also allow us to identify children whose parents we wish to avoid.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
More Doctors 'Fire' Vaccine Refusers
Families Who Reject Inoculations Told to Find a New Physician; Contagion in Waiting Room Is a Fear
― mookieproof, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
^^^last attending did that with a fam.
― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
Super Bowl measles outbreak: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/02/measles-outbreak-in-indiana.html
― kate78, Friday, 24 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
oh my god
― goole, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I am not sure how Gardasil came up in conversation at work today, but it did. OMG vaccinating 9 year olds! And boys!
New girl: "There have been deaths from it!"
Me: "I bet more people have died from cancer."
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
Or the deaths from Aspirin, Tylenol, etc
― Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Thursday, 1 March 2012 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
btw there have not been deaths from it
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
Thirty four of the total death reports have been confirmed and 37 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 34 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.
Turns out that among 40 million vaccinations, you might have a few people who die.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 1 March 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
WAHT?
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
ppl die everyday
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah! Among 40 million people, any particular 40 dying is... not that statistically significant and doesn't really amount to a correlation.
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
Like if I took 40 million teens that drank milkshakes, probably 40 would have died
ban milkshakes imo
PEOPLE DIE??????
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
:(
― valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link
btw of those 40 million milkshake-drinking teens, some were autistic
makes you think
This is not the first work conversation I have had where people have been concerned about the side effects of Gardasil. "We don't know what the long term effects are!!"
Sigh.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 2 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
Yes we do. You don't get HPV.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
you know i said the same thing about the introduction of diet coke 'THERE HAVE BEEN NO LONG TERM STUDIES'. i was fucking right.
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
One of the girls also said "we just don't know!!" about the world ending in 2012.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
I'm amazed at the backwards thinking behind those that avoid the chicken pox vaccine. "We used to get chicken pox all the time, and we all turned out fine, so I'm just going to let my kids get chicken pox." Of course, this doesn't take into account the young, old or otherwise imuno-compromised, but fuck them, right? The fact that the pox vax may or may not actually work is secondary to the selfish impulse behind avoiding it.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
my BFF since like 5th grade has a son with autism and she is also in her final year of finishing a degree that will make her a ASD councilor. For her final year she actually has to work as a councilor. 3 things she has learned:1. Jenny McCarthy is a fucking asshole2. Parents of ASD kids. Also assholes.3. Agressive ASD can be triggered by 2 y/o vaccinations but that shit is already there. Its only TRIGGERED.
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
Triggered? Or just coincidental manifestation? I don't see how anyone can prove something was triggered.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
Unless you had two subjects you knew had ASD, and one had it triggered, and one didn't. Which of course is something of a paradox.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
BTW her 5 y/o with ASD is one of the smartest kids i know. EMBRACE THIS SHIT PEOPLE.
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
Having chicken pox was one of the most miserable experiences of my life; I would literally have committed murder if someone had told me it would have cured me of it. I can't imagine avoiding anything that would shield a child from it.
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
well a genetic predisposition can by triggered by most anything. Schizophrenics get triggered, addiction gets triggered etc etc. its their biology. ASD too gets triggered in one of a trillion ways.
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Also she made a smart decision to delay vaccinations. Not that he didnt get them they just spaced them out a little more instead of oh hey youre two lets give you 5 needles at once.
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
shit lies dormant and then it gets triggered and goes bananas. IE nothing CAUSES ASD.
― giant snake birthday cake large fries chocolate shake (sunny successor), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
I have no doubt that things can trigger things. I just don't see how your friend determined that ASD could be triggered by 2 year old vaccinations. Because there's no control in the "experiment," there's no way to know whether it would have manifested itself, anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link