New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

It should send all messages to all devices everywhere *including* outgoing messages, always.

What it should optionally do is only *alert* on a device you're actively using, or all devices if you're not using any.

Reading or clearing an alert on one device should clear it on all of them.

you're at your computer. you get up to go to lunch. how does it magically know which is the 'active' device?

well you have to hit AWAY on your computer, so that it goes to the next device.

if you have an iPad at home, hopefully you hit AWAY on that when you stopped using it

see that would be annoying and would suck to have to do

if a device is asleep, no alerts + Reading or clearing an alert on one device should clear it on all of them.

but maybe you WANT an alert when your iThing's asleep hhuhm

what counts as "asleep" for an iphone?

xp exactly

Well, when you walked away from your desk, did you pick up your phone? Registering any activity on phone -> set it as active.

Asleep for phone would be as easy as "some other device is active"

Well, when you walked away from your desk, did you pick up your phone? Registering any activity on phone -> set it as active.

― valleys of your mind (mh), Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:05 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's just too many exceptions. what if i got up to grab a book from the shelf and the phone was in my pocket and it was set as active and it started buzzing instead of the computer where i was actually IMing?

you can have multiple active devices. won't matter so long as read/unread/seen alert statuses are properly synced

YES BUT I DONT WANT THEM TO ALL BUZZ AT THE SAME TIME DONT YOU GET IT PEOPLE

am i crazy or THE ONLY SANE PERSON HERE

iphone can tell whether you're still in yr office due to location and wifi/bluetooth places available? idk, I am not an Apple engineer

if you pay me, I will tell you and Apple how to make this work. Until then, it is a secret.

just tell us

xp s1ocki I turned off the text tone on my iPad after I got my iPhone to cut down on beeping, I do know what you are talking about.

I think I have email alerts turned on with iPad and I keep forgetting to turn them off until I leave iPad in my bedroom and night and ARGH EMAIL ALERTS

YES BUT I DONT WANT THEM TO ALL BUZZ AT THE SAME TIME DONT YOU GET IT PEOPLE

yeah, but there's no way this is remotely possible without you either telling it which one you want alerts on! It can only be so clever -- if you have your phone in hand and your laptop open, how is it to know which one you're looking at? Start tracking your eyes?

THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!

i don't think this problem can be solved!

idk, just stop thinking of it as a definitive problem

i cant

srsly, there are ways they can make this much much better than the shitshow it is now, without it having to meet some unattainable mind-reading goal.

so maybe it's not a good idea is what im saying

like if this feature just causes more headaches/annoyances/confusion, perhaps it shouldnt be a feature u know?

Like nothing would be a feature if it had to meet impossible demands. Siri can't understand a damn word I say, but I get that it's useful for some people.

In time, Glaswegian-capable hyper-puters will emerge

its not an impossible demand! It's a demand that this feature exist w/o annoying u more than it conveniences u and making u like 'sign in' every time u get up to take a leak!!

I'm not being helpful I know, but "own fewer apple devices" would solve it.

oh no thanks that's super helpful

the demand is "work out somehow which device i am currently expecting to receive alerts on and only ever show alerts on that one. oh, and I shouldn't have to indicate in any way what that device is, nor should this system fail at all in any edge case situations like when I happen to be using no devices at all. And when I'm not using any device, it should also still know which one I want to be alerted on", right?

any sufficiently advanced feature request is indistinguishable from magic.

that. is. my. whole. point.

i'm not ASKING for that magic, i'm saying that WITHOUT that magic, this feature is going to cause more trouble than it's worth.

'it's all about what not to do' [or something like that] - stevejo

I suspect magic is in their long-range planning

"more trouble than it's worth" = two or three extra ping sounds?

I totally think iMessage sucks right now, but I still there's something potentially v useful and handy in there, even if it doesn't manage to be totally magic.

Fuck, it's competing with SMS. Shouldn't be that high a bar.

why does it suck now?

it's great now! it lets me text ppl overseas for free!

i guess i still am not sold on the idea that SMS and IM should be/need to be the same thing

like i use those two modes of communication in different ways/for different things

its like how facebook wants to make all chats/messages the same level of thing

theyre just not. they should not be.

what is SMS used for, that email isn't? I've never had a texting phone so I don't really get how it's different from email or from IM for that matter

PLEASE HELP THIS BEHIND THE TIMES GUY UNDERSTAND THE NEW THING

most ppl i know have vibrate/noise alerts for SMS but not for their email or IM, because they get tons of emails and because they only want to receive IMs when theyre at the computer using IM

so basically SMS is really useful for reaching someone quickly & directly when you dont have the time or need to actually call them

i see so email doesn't buzz & that's why sms is better

i mean it depends on the person/phone, but yeah

also SMS is like "always available," you only IM someone when theyre "online"

combine the two and either youve elevated IM to the level of SMS where youre constantly "available" and always buzzing, or youve dropped SMS down to the level of IM and lost the useful kind of phone-buzzing message

i see! yeah it's really why sms is needed in a world with email that I'm trying to figure out

I just got a first gen iPhone from my dad & he turned off the data plan so I have it running just as an old iPod touch + voice plan, but I'm gonna upgrade it later this year to iPhone 5 & was wondering if texting is something I'm gonna want, given that I can do email already...sounds like it's all about the vibrations

max otm, this is basically what i'm getting at

i dont mind missing IMs, but missing texts can be catastrophic

sms is like a "special" more "personal" tier of email, basically, where you don't have sign them or w/e