Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

loool morbs

Wow, I can't believe Starship Troopers 2 & 3 are gonna place higher than the original.

i was so fucking disappointed when i saw a bit of ST 2.

and i like all the cheapo japanese Scanners knock-offs

I can deal with someone thinking that The Birds is Hitchcock's best. I can't deal with people thinking Le Samourai and Starship Troopers are the same kind of film.

(or The Lady Eve and Knocked Up)

Serious question, Morbs - does 'fun' or 'enjoyability' have any value in your aesthetic criteria? I mean in the sense that something that's simply fun to watch can be better than a serious, accomplished film that isn't as joyous?

what is this thing called fun you speak of?

final one for awhile, 11-15 later.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/roadwarr.png

#16

THE ROAD WARRIOR

George Miller
1981
Australia
(411 points, 13 votes)

The Road Warrior was simply everything a teenage boy could want in a single action movie.

― Alex in NYC

i love these movies. i have to admit that gibson really has a ton of charisma on screen.
i think i prefer The Road Warrior because it's just so relentless.

― ryan

My dad rented Mad Max and the Road Warrior for me when I must have been 8 or 9 and they blew my mind. Before that I was so into the whole slick '80s neon futuristic vision of the world but these movies turned me all cyberpunk.

― walter kranz

i was so fucking disappointed when i saw a bit of ST 2.

― contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Friday, February 17, 2012 11:39 AM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wasn't disappointed. Going into it knowing it wasn't Verhoeven & obv just exploiting the success of the first movie. As far as I'm concerned, ST has nothing to do at all with 2 & 3. No, I wasn't disappointed, I was just disgusted with myself for being willing to sit through anything that has explosions, guns or blood in it, regardless of how godawful it is.

if you can't kill me with these two films being tied, you've done your worst.

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 17, 2012 11:37 AM (4 minutes ago)

you issue the best challenges, srsly

ya lookin to get yaself some gasoline

rw 4ever.

haven't watched Mad Max 1 or 2 since the mid-80s i think, so i found it difficult to remember them apart and just gave the first 1 my votes

2 days ago I saw a rig that could haul that tanker

if you want to get out of here... talk to me

xxxxp

maybe i saw the wrong ST 2 bit cos it was so cheap and didn't have any decent action in it?

Starship Troopers features one of the all time awesome commentary tracks from Verhoeven.

I paraphrase: "People criticize the movie for glorifying fascist. It is not glorifying fascism! These guys are THE BAD GUYS! That is why they are WEARING BLACK! THEY ARE DRESSED LIKE NAZIS! NAZIS!"

But better, in his awesome Dutch accent.

Road Warrior is so badass.

LOSERS WAIT

let me guess if youve actually seen starship troopers morbs

tbf it's not like he'd behave at all different if he had

but anyway, comparing films like 'le samourai' and 'starship troopers' and 'nxnw' is GREAT! it's an awesome thought experiment imho. (and they are all more similar than you'd prob like to think.)

does 'fun' or 'enjoyability' have any value in your aesthetic criteria?

When you're as critical as Morbs is (and I mean this in a polite way) you're too busy dissecting films you watch for flaws and/or deeper meaning to have any actual fun with them.

morbs seems to always come back to this argument that boils down to being against aesthetic open-mindedness in any way

Road Warrior is the only Mel movie I can stomach because it really is just so good. not because of him tho, really.

does he actually dissect anything? I've only ever seen broad strokes

I have seen it, s1ocki. It was OK, and DUMB, and hence not in the top 20 of anything except maybe Paul Verhoeven films.

dumb in what way

never seen a man beat the snake before

I paraphrase: "People criticize the movie for glorifying fascist. It is not glorifying fascism! These guys are THE BAD GUYS! That is why they are WEARING BLACK! THEY ARE DRESSED LIKE NAZIS! NAZIS!"

*dying* at this btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkOqiweYfwQ

look at it

xxxp

ya i loved that in the commentary

When you're as critical as Morbs is (and I mean this in a polite way) you're too busy dissecting films you watch for flaws and/or deeper meaning to have any actual fun with them.

when you watch any movie for the first time aren't you judging it? Serious question.

calling ST "dumb" is next-level trolling

I understand love and obsession and bookishness but I don't understand reverence. The placement of these movies together is great fun.

what bemuses me a little about Morbs' take on these things is that often the big differences seem to be simply differences of societal norms, like yes romantic comedies in the 21st century are frequently crasser, cruder and swearier than their mid 20th century counterparts but the level of wit or craft probably doesn't change much across the genres as a whole, allowing for a lot of shit from 60 years ago being all but forgotten

"When you see them in the black uniforms, you should know it is BAD! BAD BAD BAD!"

you disobey me... you puppy

lol 'look at it'

When you're as critical as Morbs is (and I mean this in a polite way) you're too busy dissecting films you watch for flaws and/or deeper meaning to have any actual fun with them.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, February 17, 2012 12:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i cant speak for m-dogg but i'd say this is a mischaracterization

When you're as critical as Morbs is (and I mean this in a polite way) you're too busy dissecting films you watch for flaws and/or deeper meaning to have any actual fun with them.

This is interesting insofar as it is very similar to what baseball fans who have no use for (or no desire to learn about) the sabermetrics/Moneyball statistical analysis approach to the game say about those who do.

And in both cases, the only counterargument I have time for is "balls!"

Road Warrior is the only Mel movie I can stomach because it really is just so good. not because of him tho, really.

I remember liking Tim way WAY back when, but god nose how it's dated.

when you watch any movie for the first time aren't you judging it? Serious question.

If the story or performances don't suck me in, yeah...I start nitpicking. But I typically don't enter into a film I've not seen before with the intent to analyze it rather than simply watch it.

when you watch any movie for the first time aren't you judging it? Serious question.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 17, 2012 11:50 AM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know this wasn't directed at me, but absolutely I do, I try very hard to immerse the movie or the novel or the play, and at least operate on two levels, one of which is the pleasure of being taken over by the experience itself as it is unfolding.

i can't not analyze something while i'm watching it, it's part of the whole process

no way are there 15 better action movies than The Road Warrior.

I am super curious about the top 10 now

My takeaway of 95% of movies is usually ways they could have been better, tbh. Though that does not preclude my enjoying/appreciating them, typically.

but the level of wit or craft probably doesn't change much across the genres as a whole

By the filmmakers considered to be "at the top" of their genres I sure as fuck can see a couple steep declines....

here I am "having fun" with NxNW! (I might as well get something out of this thread)

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/north-by-northwest/1628

I mean, obv #1 is going to be Time Cop but what will 2-10 be?

there are at least 15 non-English action movies better than RW and it looks like a lot of them aren't gonna make the cut