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I swear that once I heard a woman calling for her child named Wachovia.

It's a good name for that, you'd really get some length out of the 'a' and 'o'.

but it's pronounced wacho-veeea

a friend thought that name was meant to suggest "watch over ya!"

Cue the David Alan Grier "Naming children after contraceptive drugs" bit

nobody names a male baby Dakota wtf

lol tell that to my nephew

http://blog.angryasianman.com/2012/02/hoekstra-campaign-removes-all-traces-of.html

RIP debbiespenditnow.com

RIP beautifully designed hate site

You can't say the ad was not effective.

was all ready to gis "burn world down" until I clicked

I am becoming more and more convinced that that ad company is intentionally sabotaging its clients

http://blog.angryasianman.com/2012/11/campaign-flier-features-candidates-face.html

it's kinda more nationalist than racist cuz she wite

ime, to the people who this dog whistle attracts it doesn't matter if youre chinese or chinese-american

yeah I mean on no level can chinese-americans benefit from stereotyping but the core of this is an economic nationalism message that both parties use these days. but I think you can be something of a economic nationalist without being totally racist. like, keep the message and 'facts' and take out the dumb theme - is that still race baiting? idk.

i think an ad decrying jobs lost to england or even socialist france would have a somewhat different feel

Debbie Stabenow won btw

but I think you can be something of a economic nationalist without being totally racist. like, keep the message and 'facts' and take out the dumb theme - is that still race baiting? idk.

― iatee, Sunday, November 11, 2012 6:55 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dont think this is possible fwiw when an easily identifiable racial minority is involved

I guess what I'm trying to say is that although this is clearly racist in that it works off lol south park stereotypes, it's still mostly pushing the bigger narrative 'they're taking our jobs'. a narrative that does not benefit asian-americans either. but is not entirely untrue.

not really concerned about the 'trueness' of this tbh

well what I'm more saying is that yeah, 1000 people in cleveland got this or w/e, but the big picture issue is mitt romney (and barack obama) talking about taking our jerbs back from china in front of 80 million people

what I'm saying is that there's p much no way to score political points on this topic w/o also tarring asian-americans who live in this country

and the rhetoric shouldn't be about demonizing china, it should be about criticizing the companies who decide to offshore in the first place.

well it's complicated. like I don't think #1 is untrue but that also doesn't mean that chinese currency manipulation hasn't been a major factor in jobs going offshore

and if we start attacking companies who decide to offshore, we're still participating in economic nationalism and promoting a sort of 'made in america' culture.

okay but you wouldn't have splashover onto asian-americans, which is all I really care about tbqh

I mean I get the appeal of a rarefied "technically this is true" thinking but on the ground this type of attack politics has real actual effects on actual people, no matter how carefully crafted the political message is

well china's exchange rates have actual effects on actual people too! I mean w/ this particular ad it's not even 'technically this is true' but my bigger point is that the umbrella narrative that this is happening under (china takes our jobs) generally isn't considered objectionable, even by the left

I think we're talking past each other

/ and I think that is a much bigger problem than goofy fake chinese font xp

uh this isnt really about a 'goofy fake chinese font'

the takeaway box trope is awful tho i guess that & vague economic resentment the extent of a lot of ppls engagement with 'china'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky

what's it about? I basically think some dumb flyer's asian stereotypes are 'less problematic' than the big picture narratives that the entire country accepts w/r/t trade policy but #2 is harder to question / talk about

xp

this sort of imagery is inherently toxic

taking it to fb because I don't really feel like getting into this on here

us-china relations are going to get ugly enough in the next decade without this sort of crap

takeaway box is a sort of racism-by-synecdoche

After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racist.

are you fucking kidding me?

what's it about? I basically think some dumb flyer's asian stereotypes are 'less problematic' than the big picture narratives that the entire country accepts w/r/t trade policy but #2 is harder to question / talk about

what? a white guy thinks the racism angle isn't really a big deal? eat it edward r murrow I've got the scoop of the year

what? aero purposely misreads an iatee post so he can get a zing in?

the point wasn't that 'the racism angle isn't really a big deal' the point was that the racism angle that 1000 people get isn't as important as the racism angle that 300 million people get

which is 'an american deserves a job more than a chinese person does'

eh, more that products purchased in america should be economically viable to produce in america, thus encouraging local employment

that same logic works in china! where people are poorer!

what, like no one owns foxconn? not /everyone/ is poorer

a friend I was talking to last night had been in china recently and people were excited to see her using a tablet running android! they'd never seen android, since apparently devices aren't sold there or are somehow legally restricted. she wanted to use google docs, though, but it was banned by the country's firewall. a lot of android devices are manufactured in china!

she also talked to some people who had seen a tv show about american dollar stores, and they were surprised by the variety of items available for only a dollar. how much do you want to bet a fair number of things were actually made in china?

the economics, manufacturing, and product availability of things is weird, I guess.

just saying. samsung is a big player in chinese smartphone market (19% market share) （galaxy android phones on taobao） and htc. i bought a samsung galaxy in dalian in april. google docs usually works for me in china but gets locked up about as often as blogger does (goes in erratic cycles). chinese consumers like apple. china has their own version of dollar stores selling the same cheap shit for less than a dollar and you can find the same shit in any corner store or downmarket department store.

and other android devices widely available in china： http://s8.taobao.com/search?q=android&pid=mm_10011550_2325296_9002527&unid=&mode=63&from_bt=1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20121111

yeah, it seemed really off to me! I'll have to ask where she was. The intermittent lockdown was what she meant, though.