Mad Max & Ronin
I dig Predator but I havent seen it in forever.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:26 (fourteen years ago)
"If it bleeds, we can kill it."
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:29 (fourteen years ago)
Particularly if it bleeds the kind of stuff that's inside glowsticks.
Maybe don't reach for the lasers with that one.
― White 'Poop' Jesus (snoball), Thursday, 16 February 2012 23:33 (fourteen years ago)
i think my first PG-13 movie i saw in the theater was Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. i went with like 12 bros for my 12th birthday party then we had a sleep over at my house it was awesome.
this was not the first PG-13 movie i went to, but i was 13 when i skipped my afternoon classes & snuck into a matinee screening. thing is i couldn't tell you much abt the show b/c i'm pretty sure i was french-kissing my girlfriend through literally the entire movie.
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Friday, 17 February 2012 00:04 (fourteen years ago)
you ghostin us, mothafucka
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 00:15 (fourteen years ago)
actually, I prob did the same thing when I went to see ghost! i was like the disco stu of the mall cineplex back then..
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Friday, 17 February 2012 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
I'm noticing my relative age on this thread... I was 16 when E.T. was released - right when those differences between a "kid's movie" and something that seemed more important and/or underground was hugely important. Consequently, I didn't like E.T. and still don't care for it now. Blade Runner, The Thing, Poltergeist, Conan, Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, Star Trek II, Endangered Species, and Tron were my faves that year.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 17 February 2012 00:49 (fourteen years ago)
i loved e.t. and blade runner and poltergeist and dead men don't wear plaid and tron that year. they were all the same year? wow. tron gave me a headache though. probably sat too close to the screen.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 00:56 (fourteen years ago)
How can anyone possibly think that Conan is "more important" than anything? Makes ET seem like Tolstoy.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 00:57 (fourteen years ago)
i don't think i actually saw the thing at the movies. probably wanted to and nobody would take me.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 00:57 (fourteen years ago)
conan was kind of amazing!
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 00:58 (fourteen years ago)
i dunno, i was a metal fan...
I just saw Conan again a few months ago, and it was largely a weird combo of the ridiculous and dull.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)
So, the guesses for what's next, from the list of nominees. First, pouring out a 40 for
Brotherhood of the WolfHard TargetSerenityThe Long Kiss Goodnight
All of which I love dearly, but I think their chance is gone.
Then the ones that seem guaranteed a slot. Unfortunately there's 30 for 24 slots, even counting vote splitting
A Fistful of Dollars / For a Few Dollars More / The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - I figure that at least one of these will place, Once Upon A Time In The West is good but surely not the only Morricone?AliensBad BoysBattle RoyaleBullet in the Head / Face/Off / Hard Boiled - Much as above, I don't imagine The Killer will be the only Woooo
Children of MenCrouching Tiger Hidden DragonDie HardEscape From New YorkGladiator
HeatInceptionIndependence DayKill Bill Volume 1 (Tarantino, 2003) - Vote splitting might kill this? I can't see anyone voting for 2 above 1, though?Lethal Weapon
Men in BlackPoint BlankPoint BreakRaiders of the Lost ArkRobocop
RoninStarship TroopersTaking of Pelham 123TerminatorTerminator 2
The Road WarriorThe Seven SamuraiTop GunThe TransporterUnder Siege
I guess there's a bunch where either we think the defintion of Action Movies is 80's led or not - maybe Predator is the high-water mark and there'll be no Lethal Weapon / Point Break / Top Gun / Under Siege.
Also one of the things I like about the poll results we're seeing is that it's not like you sometimes see where it's two polls superimposed on each other - the 70s America films have backers from the same pool as the Hong Kong action flicks and the 80s Classic Action and the modern films. It makes it harder to say "no that's defintely the high water mark of that genre", because they've nearly all crossed over out of any imagined contituency.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)
aliens will definitely be top 5 imo
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
my top 10 prediction: aliens, hard boiled, children of men, ronin, heat, die hard, raiders ... ....
don't know what the last 2 would be
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
also, hero's not on that list? hero's not gonna place? KFH places and not hero? ;_;
the only one that im really pulling for that im sorta worried wont make it is point break
― max, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
i hate that forecasting stuff. just let the results wash over you
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:49 (fourteen years ago)
can't you see i'm trying to boost my ilx cred
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
Given the number of insanely awesome films on that hypothetical leftovers list, there's going to be a whole bunch of A+ action left on the cutting room floor.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:52 (fourteen years ago)
I might've maybe should have put Hero on the list, it kind of passed me by. Though it and KFH are only really comparable on the broadest of terms!
The one that I've heard people repping for that I actually wouldn't be surprised if doesn't make it is Children of Men - it obviously has a bunch of guns, but I just really don't consider it an Action Film, even considering the wiiiide net cast on this thread.
I'll be happy if Ronin doesn't make the top ten - I really didn't get on with its Blokey Honor and Honorable Blokes. I'll be esctatic if Heat doesn't, but not holding my breath. Maybe I just don't like Robert DeNiro?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
so children of men is an ilx classik? i must have been absent that day. don't get me wrong, i dig it a ton, but i never would have thought to nominate it.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:53 (fourteen years ago)
i definitely DO remember ronin and heat being ilx canon. both of which i also like a bunch, neither of which i voted for. cuz i wouldn't want to marry them. maybe a second marriage...
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:54 (fourteen years ago)
was the untouchables nominated? i can't remember.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:55 (fourteen years ago)
if starship troopers isn't top five then this isn't the ilx i know and mostly love.
I want SST to be in the top 5 but I don'tw ant to set myself up for disappointment
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 17 February 2012 01:56 (fourteen years ago)
untouchables was def nommed. I said your friend... died like a stuck Irish pig.
The forecasting stuff is purely a tension device, it increases the awareness that each new name on the list is tightening the noose on the others. Ideally we'll get to the end of tomorrow and there'll be 11 top ten films - in all likelihood it'll be dayo's list + a Terminator or two and maybe Starship Troopers, and then a loong drop off to say Bad Boys - stuff that I might think could be top-25 but no-one thinks will be top-10.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:58 (fourteen years ago)
jeez, under siege. too bad you couldn't vote for one dude instead of a movie. like, segal could be his own vote. the van damme vote, etc. cuz i feel like bronson won't be repped here and if he got his own vote, then all would be good.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 01:59 (fourteen years ago)
I'm terrified that votes were split between under siege/under siege 2
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:00 (fourteen years ago)
Bronson. Knew I should've voted for Death Wish 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeUAavpnU
― Spectrum, Friday, 17 February 2012 02:02 (fourteen years ago)
Under Siege needs to get all the Under Siege votes because #2 is dummmmmmm.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:09 (fourteen years ago)
eric bogosian hijacks a train w/a cynical monologue iirc?
― omar little, Friday, 17 February 2012 02:11 (fourteen years ago)
seagal movies you may have missed:
2002 Half Past Dead Sasha Petrosevitch2003 The Foreigner Jonathan ColdOut for a Kill Prof. Robert BurnsBelly of the Beast Jake Hopper2004 Out of Reach William LansingClementine Jack Miller2005 Into the Sun Travis HunterSubmerged Chris CodyToday You Die Harlan BanksBlack Dawn Jonathan Cold2006 Mercenary for Justice John SeegerShadow Man Jack FosterAttack Force Cmdr. Marshall Lawson2007 Flight of Fury John SandsUrban Justice Simon Ballister2008 Pistol Whipped Matt ConlinThe Onion Movie Cock PuncherKill Switch Jacob2009 Against the Dark TaoDriven to Kill RuslanThe Keeper Roland Sallinger2009– Steven Seagal: Lawman (himself)2010 A Dangerous Man Shane DanielsMachete TorrezBorn to Raise Hell Samuel Axel2011 True Justice Elijah KaneSkin Trade
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 02:12 (fourteen years ago)
I don't see First Blood getting mentioned much. Is it falling off people's radar because it doesn't have Rambo in the title or because they don't think much of it as an action film?
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:16 (fourteen years ago)
I swear Half Past Dead is a Troy McClure movie.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:19 (fourteen years ago)
I watched first blood recently and I wasn't that impressed, predator was the better 'dudes in a jungle' movie
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:19 (fourteen years ago)
first blood is legend. i should have voted for deliverance. and southern comfort.
― scott seward, Friday, 17 February 2012 02:19 (fourteen years ago)
I really like First Blood.
Also a multitude of xxxposts to Josh In Chicago, re Conan: oh Conan's important. I don't remember seeing ET punch a camel. Any severed heads in ET? NO. I REST MY CASE.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Conan peaks with the camel punch. The rest is bad snake FX, iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 February 2012 02:38 (fourteen years ago)
rong
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 02:58 (fourteen years ago)
i keep missing the end of omar's daily countdowns cos they end at 3-4am local time and opening up this thread every morning when i get to work is always a pleasure. except for the part where time & tide doesn't show up. and while it is an awesome movie i feel like it's not getting into the top 25 ;_;
― Jibe, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:09 (fourteen years ago)
i am v tempted to start watching these from the first i have not seen to the last
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:23 (fourteen years ago)
i enjoy morbs's 'action is not a genre' stance - in some way that's what makes this list so interesting, i think, way more so than a list of 'best sf movies' or whatever. (the formal definitions proffered upthread are pretty neat, tho -- 'action' a genre like 'lyric poetry' is a genre, not like 'crime' is a genre)
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
you know this is the most fun big poll i've read by miles and miles. so many great memories shared, so much warm nostalgia, so may lols! i really appreciate the work that Omar has been putting into this.
... just sayin.
― piscesx, Friday, 17 February 2012 03:29 (fourteen years ago)
oh dude that would have been on my ballot, sorry for not voting
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:31 (fourteen years ago)
I really didn't get on with its Blokey Honor and Honorable Blokes.
Awwwwww! For me, this is one of the necessary components of an action movie.
― drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:34 (fourteen years ago)
I like that we can both love the genre while needing opposite things from it, though.