"We're going to need guns - lots of guns" reminds me of one of the ways the Matrix is great - the rare film with an innovative schtick that has also thought about how to intensify its style and story in the last act rather than just do more, louder.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
how is it a betrayal of the basic concept exactly?
― Number None, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
calling something as deliberate as OUATITW "action" o_O
i said in the nominations thread that the term "action movie" will be forever coloured by the big 80s stuntfests that had better fill up the upper echelons of this poll or else. but there are films from earlier eras that really shd count as action movies even tho their pacing is more considered or sedate. having said that, Once is nowhere near Leone's actioniest picture as far as i'm concerned.
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
the big 80s stuntfests that had better fill up the upper echelons of this poll or else
cuz they need the help
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
you control reality, what do you need a gun for?
it's similar to all the action movie nonsense in Inception, it's just conceptually nonsensical.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
NONSENSE I say!
iirc they shot the basic concept with lots of guns
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, but they're only able to control reality up to a certain point.
― Number None, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
gunpoint
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
also, it's just cool. Shut up
― Number None, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
i love it when people who don't understand inception complain about inception
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
kind of wish there was a whole thread dedicated to it
or multiple threads
lol
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
xp I assume Shakey is mad at the idea that if we realise that our world is a consensual hallucination, we'll still try to solve things with guns & kung-fu.
Though of course it must be said that there is a considerable market segment that is receptive to the idea that you can beat people by thinking kung-fu faster than them - that next donut might be the key to victory! The intervening 13 years have probably not provided much to make the idea less attractive (pats belly).
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
i love it when we argue about whether nerd flicks are internally consistent enough
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
i love it when we facetiously say we love stuff
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
I never knew guns didn't make things louder
movies that "are just cool," like Ob*m*
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
and there it is, kudos
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)
xp Now that you mention it, your tears are kind of delicious!
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E586mYraTUs
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
old man hallucinates clouds indoors
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
I saw one of those science of Hollywood shows one time where they proved that if John McClane had done that abseiling with a firehose trick for real he would have been snapped in half. Die Hard: brainless
― Number None, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
I wouldn't know, I've never seen Die Hard
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
oh wow i thought all the stunts in Die Hard were based on real life incidents
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
all Die Hard stunts were just part of Lenny DiCaprio's dream iirc
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
the point is it is about some endearing shmoe and not about goths who want to kill all the mean kids
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
basically if yr central protagonist does not have domestic problems and a boss who yells at them then bollocks you are not a proper action flick
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
thought morbs might appreciate the matrix's leninism *shrug*
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
Neo was considered a loose cannon by his boss, may have asked him to hand in his badge, not sure.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
I thought the guns in the Matrix made sense, though it's been a while. It was a simulacrum of the real world, so the avatars (I guess?) worked with real world solutions, however malleable. I had more probs with Inception, which was a subconscious dream world where in theory anything could happen, but instead we get ... the Matrix and more guns.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
THE BOURNE SUPREMACY - this was the only bourne i voted for. h4a already pointed it out but the chase sequences in this are incredibly visceral and really well executed
― (_()_) (Lamp), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
Morbs, even when I agree with you, you make it hard for me to want to agree with you.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
Inception, which was a subconscious dream world where in theory anything could happen
argh
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
Save it for when it comes in at #1, folks
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
there is no fucking way it shd be placing at all above what we've got already
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:53 AM (24 minutes ago)
oh god damn, dude, get out of this thread
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
thread needs more Morbs imo
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)
i like the bourne movies a bunch, but i didn't vote for them cuz i knew everyone else would. i voted for OUATITW and warriors though. cuz they are in my heart 4ever.
― scott seward, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
(fingers itching to start the "what's the rest of the poll" speculation, but I'll wait until 25)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)
a/v club weighs in on demolition man today, coincidentallyhttp://www.avclub.com/articles/demolition-man,69379/
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
i think The Morbz Superiority is gonna crack the top 10
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)
serious question; you know the deranged wife/ romantic subplot aspect of Inception? well i LOVED all that (the stuff in Paris etc) much better than all the action shizzle. is there a movie that's like that *all* the way through?
― piscesx, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_(1981_film)
― omar little, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
^ just came on TCM Underground a few weeks ago, btw.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
ooh!
― piscesx, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
MORRICONE
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/bigtrouble.png
#27
BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA
John Carpenter1986United States(354 points, 12 votes, 1 first place)
this movie rules. total classic.
― chaki
this is one of the best movies of all time. this thread needs to be overrun with great quotes from this great movie.
― f. hazel
this movie was so much better on re-viewing it than i thought it would be! the whole premise that the sidekick is the actual hero is so great and something i probably was completely oblivious to when i saw it as a kid!
― s1ocki
I really feel like BTiLC deserves respect as a genuinely good film! There's probably some really good detailed defense of the Carpenter aesthetic out there, but it seems to me that a lot of what could be perceived as bad about this and other films of his is really in the service of art. I don't know if it's Camp, but it's something akin to it, right?
― Dan I.
BIG TROUBLE in little china: C/D?
― omar little, Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:39 (fourteen years ago)
Yeeeees.
I LOVE THIS MOVIE
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)
Yes, it's great. And fun.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 16 February 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)