ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

slipping on horror flix myself. last week, i watched some wretched thing i got from the library called stake land it was wretched.

Huh. I had heard good things about Stake Land.

no mention of sion sono's cold fish in here, anyone seen it?

i watched tokyo gore police on halloween while eating pizza, it was pretty stomach-turning. not really my kind of horror.

Jesus christ watch A Serbian Movie last night, and I want my innocence back.

no sympathy

you know why I generally hate horror films? bcz ppl judge them by how SCARY they are.

you realize this flat out admits that what other people think of what's on the screen is more important to you than what's on the screen.

I watch horror for many reasons one of them is I like being frightened, also I like being challenged by what I'm watching.

I just checked an indiana jones thread to see if morbz hated temple of doom (which has horror AND rollercoasters) and he just said all the films can't hold a torch to Thief Of Bagdhad so fair enough.

Oh, Serbian Film is so ridiculously vile that I can't feel bad for having seen it. Coulda been worse.

How could it have been worse?? Serious question.

It would have been a worse experience if it had been better made. For me, it was just so ham-fisted, obviously and cheaply symbolic and crappily produced that it didn't have much effect on me other than to be a little grossed-out by filmmakers' apparent hierarchy of deviance as evidenced by the chronology (120 days of sodom style) -- which is truly fucked is baby rape is in the MIDDLE.

nobody puts baby rape in the middle

irl lol

Ha! I thought it was kind of beautifully shot and the pacing was perfect, but there's a limit to what I'll call a good.

I agree with Three Word Username. It was just so OTT yet so on the nose at the same time, it was more a morality exercise than a real affront to my sensibilities. Like, is rape bad? Yes. Does the movie say otherwise? No. Is it really rape? No. Is it as hard to watch as "Irreversible?" No. Is it as well made as that movie? Hell, no. Etc.

I watch horror for many reasons one of them is I like being frightened, also I like being challenged by what I'm watching when heads explode.

anyone who watches ASF deserves what they get

Like it's some unique Rubicon? "ASF" is so surreal and intentionally provocative, but what distinguishes it from a host of horribles, on the offensive front, isn't that significant. What is significant is that it has a moral compass to it, which is more than you can say for any number of aimless torture porn flicks.

Also, and I thought this was interesting, I just read "The Lazarus Project" by the esteemed Bosnian-American novelist Aleksandar Hemon, which hinges in part on a return to the former killing fields (as such) of the Balkans, and darned if there weren't some depraved heart of darkness similarities to "ASF." Makes me wonder if the filmmakers were onto something that many of us may never fully understand.

i didn't mean it all that seriously. just given what i've heard, i've decided that it's a baby too far, and wanted to flex my opprobrium.

i haven't seen the film, but i thought it was generally acknowledged that bosnia's recent history is, if not "the point", exactly, then what ASF is responding to/arises from. or at least that that's the excuse.

Oh, that's totally accurate, and made explicitly obvious in the movie. Just saying that as repellent as aspects of the movie may be, I found it intriguing to read something of a more classy, accepted nature - that is, an award winning novel by a top-notch author - that in some ways explores many similarly horrific aspects of the former Yugoslavia's recent history.

The baby thing, by the way, is virtually a blip in a parade of semi-stylized atrocities, many of which take place in passing, or through a delirious filter. And the brief scene is practically narrated by the film's voice, its amorla pole, the same figure who makes the movie's themes explicit. Which isn't totally exculpating, but it does make pains to contextualize what you're seeing (or, really, not seeing in this case). But what I was getting at is that as horrific as it is in theory, it's really splitting hairs to say it's any "worse" than "Insides," or "Martyrs," or "Hostel" or whatever. There's some Korean film called I want to say "The Butcher" that looks so repellent I'd never see it; even though I doubt it goes as "far" as "ASF," it's approach seems wholly more disgusting and exploitative.

Amoral, not amorla, though amorla should be a word, I think.

no mention of sion sono's cold fish in here, anyone seen it?

yeah - easily the worst of the Sono I've seen. one-note, plodding, super long and very hateful.

though amorla should be a word, I think.

lol, i thought "amorla pole" was a literary figure i should be familiar with. a femme fatale, clearly...

bond villainess obv

Just saw Triangle, enjoyed it (I'm liking my horror movies tinged with sadness more and more these days), and am amazed at how many people really just did not get the significance of the Sisyphus myth and walked away thinking they'd seen a failed time travel movie.

Wow, THE LOST (or JACK KETCHUM'S THE LOST as the cover image reads) just blew. me the fuck. away.

Probably old news to y'all (2005) but it's on instawatch if you haven't. Both movies I've seen based on Ketchum have kicked my ass. (RED was the other).

also wondering if anyone saw the woman yet... like red it's another ketchum-mckee joint

I really want to.

Just watched The Oregonian. Someone hold me? Please?

RED is absolutely fantastic, havent gotten to the lost yet, but the girl next door was def no fun to watch.

triangle fans should all see timecrimes which is a much more well done and nuanced version of the same basic trope.

also "the thing 2011" should pretty much be avoided by everybody

so wait is the oregonian good or

i have no idea! 'It was an experience'. It's aggressively nightmarish. I felt trapped and hopeless in it. There are some hacky LOL Lynch/i has a surrealism moments but it's so single-minded that it really gets to you.

holy fuck @ "The Girl Next Door"

its a light hearted romp!

oh no wait it is actually the opposite of that my bad

I really want to watch it based on how much i've dug the other films based on Ketchum books but man, I might not have the spine.

Oh yeah jjj did you see Roman? It has the Mckee/Bettis parts of the mix though no Ketchum. I liked it a lot.

Triangle IS NOT A TIME TRAVEL MOVIE, thus not the same basic trope.

oh shit you are right i guess? my memory of triangle is a little limited tbh

I'm still bitter about Triangle. Watched it up til 15 minutes from the end. Wife came home, so I left the finale for later. A few busy days elapsed. A free hour emerged, logged on, no longer available on streaming. ARGH.

Got kind of nostalgic buzz from finding out Fangoria a) still exists, and b) still does their Chainsaw Awards. This year's nominees:

BEST WIDE-RELEASE FILM
DON’T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK
DRIVE ANGRY
FINAL DESTINATION 5
FRIGHT NIGHT
INSIDIOUS
PARANORMAL ACTIVITY 3

BEST LIMITED-RELEASE/DIRECT-TO-DVD FILM
ATTACK THE BLOCK
BLACK DEATH
THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE II (FULL SEQUENCE)
RED WHITE & BLUE
STAKE LAND
TUCKER AND DALE VS. EVIL

BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM
AMER
I SAW THE DEVIL
KIDNAPPED
A SERBIAN FILM
THE SKIN I LIVE IN
THE TROLL HUNTER

BEST ACTOR
Antonio Banderas, THE SKIN I LIVE IN
Sean Bean, BLACK DEATH
Choi Min-sik, I SAW THE DEVIL
Nick Damici, STAKE LAND
Tyler Labine, TUCKER AND DALE VS. EVIL
Noah Taylor, RED WHITE & BLUE

BEST ACTRESS
Tabrett Bethell, THE CLINIC
Rose Byrne, INSIDIOUS
Amanda Fuller, RED WHITE & BLUE
Josie Ho, DREAM HOME
Bailee Madison, DON’T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK
Pollyanna McIntosh, THE WOMAN
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
William Fichtner, DRIVE ANGRY
Michael Parks, RED STATE
Eddie Redmayne, BLACK DEATH
Marc Senter, RED WHITE & BLUE
Alexander Skarsgård, STRAW DOGS
Timothy Spall, WAKE WOOD

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Elena Anaya, THE SKIN I LIVE IN
Katrina Bowden, TUCKER AND DALE VS. EVIL
Danielle Harris, STAKE LAND
Lin Shaye, INSIDIOUS
Carice van Houten, BLACK DEATH
Jodie Whittaker, ATTACK THE BLOCK

BEST SCREENPLAY
Joe Cornish, ATTACK THE BLOCK
Dario Poloni, BLACK DEATH
Simon Rumley, RED WHITE & BLUE
Pedro Almodóvar, Agustín Almodóvar, THE SKIN I LIVE IN
Nick Damici, Jim Mickle, STAKE LAND
Eli Craig, Morgen Jurgenson, TUCKER AND DALE VS. EVIL

BEST SCORE
Steven Price, Basement Jaxx, ATTACK THE BLOCK
Christian Henson, BLACK DEATH
Cliff Martinez, CONTAGION
Joseph Bishara, INSIDIOUS
Jeff Grace, STAKE LAND
Michael Convertino, WAKE WOOD

BEST MAKEUP/CREATURE FX
Mike Elizalde, Spectral Motion, Paul Hyett, ATTACK THE BLOCK
Robert Hall, CHROMESKULL: LAID TO REST 2
Max Van De Banks, Dan Rickard, THE DEAD
Brian Spears, Peter Gerner, STAKE LAND
Kristi Boul, Marcus Koch, Mike Oliver, SWEATSHOP
Robert Kurtzman, Anthony Pepe, THE WOMAN

Triangle IS NOT A TIME TRAVEL MOVIE, thus not the same basic trope.

uh, what is it then?

Is Groundhog Day a time travel movie?

It's a retelling of the Sisyphus myth.

Trying not to spoil the hell out of it, but I will if you insist.

no, it's cool. leave it there. i had the same reservations.

The Cabin in the Woods ends up pretty awesome after a fake-out start.

Actually, I'm still buzzing off it. Hoping not to spoil it in saying that it's sort of the ultimate meta dead-teen movie that winds up moving in an entirely 'nother direction.

Actually, it might be salient in the "enjoying horror movies" thread, but it's gotten tl;dr.