McTiernan = those 3 and Hunt for Red October (and Last Action Hero!).
Cameron = Aliens and Terminator/T2. Interested to see if Avatar / True Lies / Titanic / Abyss place - I wouldn't be surprised if any of them do or don't.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
Actually iirc the rape in Showgirls is central to the resolution of the plot: Nomi refuses to go along with the club's plan to pay her friend to be quiet about it, kicks the rapist in the balls repeatedly, and leaves Las Vegas, end of movie. It's like the one thing in the entire movie that Nomi isn't cynical about.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
remember when HK cinema started to be a thing in the US among film nerd circles, and that realization that there was a whole other universe of action movies out there that nobody you knew had seen?
that kind of revelation is the one thing i kinda miss about pre-internet culture
^^^yes definitely. hit me hard at the time.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
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#43
THE FIFTH ELEMENT
Luc Besson1997United States/France(265 points, 10 votes)
I think it's funny, colorful, visually interesting, full of fun cartoonish characters and details, good with its action bits ... I suppose the ending is a bit cornball, but I'd say all that's really missing is painting Bjork blue to play the diva. It kinda reminds me of those "You Are an Intergalactic Spy" puzzle books I was talking about on some other thread a while back.
Am I missing some narrative issues here, or are people projecting some strange expectations onto this? E.g., speculating that the humor may be "unintentional" seems really off -- this spends like half of its time being a comedy! I mean, the monks are practically Three-Stooging it throughout!
― nabisco
well nabisco a bunch of things I don't like about it have already been cited as other people's favorite so I dunno how productive its gonna be for me to say that I have never enjoyed Bruce Willis's smug-but-lovable-asshole routine in anything ever, or that I find Chris Tucker's emasculated-black-man-freak character just gross, or that the dialogue is all by and large totally laughable ("Me Leloo - supreme being!"), or that Gary Oldman as a sci-fi southern gentleman is unconvincing (what's the point of making him southern, again?), or that the plot's central theme of "love saving the universe" doesn't interest me in any way....
In a larger sense, maybe its that I like my sci-fi films to have some content that reflects on the present in some unusual or illuminating way. This one is just empty - a lot of eye candy and self-conscious dialogue about how ridiculous all the eye candy is and that's pretty much it.
― Shakey Mo Collier
Mull - tee - pass
― zaxxon25
hahaha omg I'd forgotten about the WAR montage. This movie fucking rules.
― Curt1s Stephens
The Fifth Element
― omar little, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
mool tee pass
― max, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)
leeloo dallas, multipass! still smth we say quite often with my friends
― Jibe, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
i always liked how clearly the moebius designs came through in 5E.
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
I would like Besson to be the winning director tbh! C'mon there's this and Le Femme Nikita already and Taken, plus Transporter, B-13, Kiss of the Dragon could still come up....
(Full disclosure: I saw Wasabi with Jean Reno over Christmas break. It's...it was a worse action movie than I expected, but more loveable overall. And funny, occasionally very funny.)
― one little aioli (Laurel), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)
forgot leon laurel. and taken, transporter, b13, kiss of the dragon are movies producd by his company, europacorop, not ones he directed. but yeah he's good with good ol' dumb action flicks
― Jibe, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
aw, too low
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
xpost And the Gaultier costumes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
gah the scene where she googles WAR
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
this is the best thing about it. otoh I can just read the Incal, rather than sit through all the other irritating elements packed into 5E.
xp
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
love the fifth element. i suppose i 'get' why people dislike it but it's so big-hearted in a way and weird and energetic and colorful and has some kind of bizarre singular originality in its huge number of homages.
― omar little, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
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#42
SPEED
Jan de Bont1994United States(269 points, 10 votes)
i once had a dirty dream about keanu after 'speed' came out, and it was pretty awesome, so i don't care about his pudding brain (which i disagree with, btw).
― Rubyredd
― omar little, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
(I hate True Lies so much, by the way, it's like the racism of ToD+the horrible misogyny of, um, something horribly misogynist all mushed together into an OTT shit-bomb. The scene with Arnold forcing JLC to strip to prove a point is all time low).
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
I think Besson's credited with writing some of them, though this is probably "... his name on the cheque".
Maybe The Lady will win the 2022 version of this poll!
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
:D
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― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
Omar you're going so fast!
the bus that couldn't slow down.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
Want to say I saw speed the same day as the OJ car chase.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
I have never seen Speed!
ha yes, gaultier. orange rubber suspenders, always a hot look.
true story, i'm not a comics fan in the slightest but i did buy the first incal collection at a used bookstore why because it look intersting. so years later 5E comes out, and i'm like... hmm these spaceships and cities and stuff look pretty familiar.
xps
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
Which actor will have the most films place? Bruce? Arnold? Arnold, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
fr ted milkfloat > Speed
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
I liked Chris Tucker in 5E.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
fuck i should have voted for speed
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
xxxp
Harrison Ford maybe. Indy+Bladerunner+Fugitive+Star Wars, maybe Air Force One or the Jack Ryan movies even.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
feel like "is Chris Tucker's character in 5E" racist/homophobic could be it's whole own thread
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
I'm just going to pretend the speed votes were a practical joke or a conspiracy or the equivalent of a third party protest vote.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
speed is a great action movie
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
way better than the fifth element (and now it's scientifically proven)
I'm reading your words, but I'm still pretending.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah Speed is terrific, u mad
I wonder where They Live falls on the Tuomas action/scifi continuum
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
hmm these spaceships and cities and stuff look pretty familiar.
yeah there's things that are lifted straight off the page. Heavy Metal did that too, 5E probably more successful tho.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
― wolf kabob (ENBB)
if i post a film every ten min or less i won't explode
― omar little, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
Speed's great, Sandra Bullock doing Evil Knievel jumps in a bus while bug eyed Dennis Hopper does his creepy psycho schtick. What's not to like?
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
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#41
BULLITT
Peter Yates1968United States(275 points, 9 votes)
bullitt owns and strangely enough i think it's elevated by the quieter scenes which are fairly basic and workmanlike (bullitt goes to the grocer's! bullitt looks through a suitcase! delgetti uses an archaic flip book to create composite sketch!)
― omar little
The hottest man in the world drinking a glass of milk.
― I have a paranoid daughter and a son who is addicted to internet (Laurel)
― omar little, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
ok that's all for now! back later...
― omar little, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
even i know that speed is great
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
for some reason i remember the 'date' scene in bullitt really well
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
Guess I should rewatch this. Car chase aside, which along with French Connection set the gold standard for car chases, I found it pretty boring. Though it's been a long time since I last saw it.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
saw bullitt quite recently and was struck by how clueless the scenes of policework & basic law are. like sub-A-team. decades of law and order franchises have kind of drilled this into audiences maybe? you can't have a car chase ending in a death and then just... go home. idk maybe the 60s were a little more renegade-cop-friendly.
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah Ford for four (maybe 5 if The Last Crusade or more than one Star Wars rocks up), Ahnold has these two and Terminators and Predator and maybe... Conan?
Will Smith on 3? MIB, Bad Boys, Wild Wild West, Independance Day.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
oh man Wild Wild West for #1
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
Bad Boys or BBII had better be on this list.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
Hancock for #2
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
Bullitt was a pretty easy cut from my ballot. Aside from the car chase, it didn't seem very actiony. The airport foot chase at the end got downright boring after a while.
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
I remember Speed being pretty good (haven't seen it forever), but I don't really think you can call it an action movie because everyone is just sitting in a bus.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
but the bus is SPEEDING
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)