I still haven't seen the Toy Story movies
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
as a follow up to The Iron Giant, The Incredibles was a crushing disappointment
― Number None, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 4:56 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Indeed. They made the protagonists human instead of a robot.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
i think the politics of incredible rankled because they were kinda different from the shitty politics of other films!
it's a big pet peeve of mine but using 'neocon' incorrectly drives me nuts. ayn rand is not irving kristol
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
everyone hates the Cars movies don't they? Apart from John Lassetter
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
toy story movies just seemed like toy/mcdonalds/cash-in movies. the tech is cool. but jesus a movie like findin nemo is like all time great and so much better.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
i think we get more nervous about politics in "kids" films anyway
― max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
finding
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
i liked this line from a review of enter the dragon i read once, that said john saxon had a black belt in karate and a brown belt in acting
enter th dragon's cool cuz its directed by the guy who did gymkata, and bolo yeung plays himself in it
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)
i liked ratatouille a bunch.
I need to see Enter The Dragon again
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
"john saxon had a black belt in karate and a brown belt in acting"
roffle
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
plus tim allen and tom hanks for two hours ehhh blah. and all those other t.v. losers.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)
― Number None, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:00 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hate to break it to you but kids fucking LOVE these movies
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
fair/fair. i just think they are charming in spite of themselves. but i *get* the objection. ratatouille is (to me) a surprisingly complex movie. I saw it at hte lowest low point in my life and I loved it instantly. my gf despises it, has never made it all the way through tho... v. curious how polarized our reactions are.
― "renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
toy story movies just seemed like toy/mcdonalds/cash-in movies.
This is mind-bigglingly OffTM
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
The Toy Stories are delightful if flawed. We applaud their celebration of commitment to a higher cause (being a toy is a goal in itself) while we denounce their use of a Cowboy to relay this message.
― Banaka™ (banaka), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
― scott seward, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
http://i.imgur.com/wP9f5.gif
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)
they're just so creepy (the Cars movies)
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
Enter the Dragon is awesome and ridiculous. Plus there are irl boners.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)
plz change thread title to "Opinions on Pixar films (also some action film poll results)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
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#53 (TIE)
MIAMI VICE
Michael Mann2006United States(217 points, 7 votes)
I've read a lot of critics say that the movie doesn't have a lot in common with the TV series, but I don't think that's quite true. It's ridiculously stylized, but all Mann is. More importantly, its plot is thick, its exposition almost nonexistant, its themes heavy but a little ill-presented, and its characterizations very, very thin. This is true of even (perhaps especially) the best episodes of the TV show. It's all sex and violence and macho fantasy (did I see Gong Li crying during sex?) and, well, I kinda loved it. I won't remember anything about it in a month except for the way it looked, but hey.
― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan)
this was GREAT. the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever, but everything else was really solid entertainment.
i wished that gong li had stuck to the "hard-headed businesswoman" persona she was projecting in the beginning, and not turned into a vulnerable ho-bag. my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.
― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen)
I've now watched this movie on DVD about 12 times in the past 18 months, and it's finally making sense: the go-fast boats, the FLIR images, all that narc jargon -- and that the guy in the white linen jacket at the club buying the hookers is part of their team (was he going to have sex with them?) and that the rest of the team follows Sonny and Crockett into Jose's Hatian den and Justin Theroux tosses Crockett a hand grenade during the negotiations. And so many scenes finally make sense where initially it's like watching the end-credits of Cache.
― Eazy
some of my favorite mann moments in this:
interior of car being torn apart by anti-materiel rifle
the part before the climax where crockett & tubbs fistbump exactly when the drums of nu-metal in the air tonight kick in
scene where luis tosar is shown the security footage of crockett dancing just a little too erotically with gong li and the camera lingers on the back of his head the entire time
the raid on the trailer park was the only sequence that had any dramatic heft, to me. really would've liked to have seen the movie mann 'wanted' to make, with the climax taking place in the triple frontier. it also struck me that jamie foxx killing yero at the end = russell means killing magua at end of mohicans. in both cases it was like a concession that, yeah, the white lead was lame and the nonwhite sidekick's conflict was much more dramatically satisfying.
― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam)
come anticipate Miami Vice with me
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
^^^^YES
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
one inch punch so rad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mxwIC8lrv0&feature=related
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
I can't find the medulla oblongata scene on youtube - favorite Mann moment ever
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
I have never seen Miami Vice
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
The reason the Incredibles politics (however unintentional) rankles is residual 9/11 unease. On one hand, you have scenes where the mom actually states how "everything has changed" as a justification for more extreme action. On the other, you have a sub-theme of how political correctness has ruined achievement for some by praising the achievement of everyone (the kindergarden graduation theory). I think a character asks "how can I be special when everyone is special?" or something. But yeah, as far as reactionary politics go, it's an exercise in subtly compared to the usual action fascism.
Also, Cars was literally test marketed as a boy equivalent to Disney's Princess empire, successfully, apparently. I have two girls, and they couldn't care less about Cars. But every little boy I know has Cars swag.
Has Bruce Lee ported over well to subsequent generations, raised on family friendly Jackie Chan?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
miami vice trailer is one of the great moving pictures of the last couple years
i love the movie but the trailer blows me away
― max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
I rented it (Miami Vice) from the library and the blu-ray crapped out at the beginning of the trailer park raid and I never finished it because it was boring and suck.
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
I love Miami Vice. Do think it's weird that Crockett (or Tubbs) makes such a big deal about drinking mojitos.
exactly what i was going to say max
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
miami vice is a sore spot in my relationship too, i dragged my gf and a bunch of her friends to it on opening night and they did not get it at ALL
such an amazing trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4xSA7_aEtI
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Also, cold start of theatrical Miami Vice one of the greatest of all time. They fucked it up in the director's cut.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
I knew it would place. Iirc ILX seemed to love MV.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Max specifically btw.
kind of the most quotable movie ever, too
That's not what happens. What will happen is... what will happen is I will put a round at twenty-seven hundred feet per second into the medulla at the base of your brain. And you will be dead from the neck down before your body knows it. Your finger won't even twitch. Only you get dead. So tell me, sport, do you believe that?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3TeE2Z7a_U
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
are both directors and theatrical cuts avail on the blu ray of mv
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:06 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think you will like it. Loved Miami Vice for what it was. Walked away a little perplexed as to why I enjoyed it so much. But I did. Also a big Mann fan, but not sure exactly why.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)
it really is special
just director's cut unfortunately
Nicholas: They are vertically intergrated, they're... Det. Ricardo Tubbs: You mean they walk around with constant erections?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
really? that rankles. rankles!
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
I saw Miami Vice this beautiful summer afternoon. During the movie the projector flickered once. When I came out, there had been this massive storm that passed through, with downed trees and power lines and stuff. It was totally disorienting.
True story.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
whoa
it was the movie that did it
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
i dont care much for MV as a movie but i do appreciate its filmmaking and as a collection of 'mann moments' (as omar put it). like most of his recent efforts, its incredibly frustrating for tantalizing you with visions of the film it could've been.
― RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:11 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol sorry...
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
the character actors make Miami Vice - John Hawkes, the kingpin and his evil henchman, the weaselly guy who gets the hooked into the cartel
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)
i need to sit down and have a long think about public enemies one of these days
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)
I hated the night-time gunfight scenes in Public Enemy - the way Mann shot them on video just didn't look right
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)