Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

How is Casino Royale not a Bourne ripoff???

― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

perhaps you should make a case for it? is it because bond did martial arts in it? not a new feature for a bond movie. is it because of the serious tone? again, not new. cinematically it wasn't similar to anything greengrass was doing at that time, and the bulk of the screenplay was based on the novel. QoS is more blatantly working in the bourne tradition, but i dont see it with CR

well the parkour opening definitely felt a bit like, 'let's get with the times here'

lol parkour

it's been a while but I also don't remember a ton of quick-cut shakycam in Casino Royale, which is IMO the main identifier of a Bourne clone

Jamie Foxx's cab driver is so good that he gets Jada to the office too early, thus throwing off Tom Cruise's assassination schedule and setting the whole movie in motion, a point that is never mentioned or even inferred in the movie.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i... never picked this up

i ended up not really liking this movie only because i could never disbelieve enough. assassin gets a cab? how about renting a car.

yeah sure, getting with the times, but clearly more in a 'whoa did you guys see this bitchen District B13 thing' kind of way

come on, you better believe bourne came up in the pitch for CR

they were always trying to snazz up bond movies. since the the 70's.

ade what's your #1 bond? casino royale is definitely up there for me, maybe my favorite. ive read that the second one got kinda gutted during the writers strike which is why its so incoherent

i dig collateral, i think of it more as a drama/thriller but i suppose there is enough action in it. to me its more memorable as a movie with great moments in it than as a great movie

honestly why isn't this list just commando a hundred times

ya i dont really care tbh

Quantum of Solace is far more Bourne-ish, except completely fucked up from conception to final product.

omg bond in space wars! its all good.

im a from russia with lover

i think the bourne-iest thing about CR is the idea that bond is a conflicted human being instead of a debonair sociopath

that is actually the ian fleming-ish thing about it!

assassin gets a cab? how about renting a car.

Seriously?

all the bond books are like that in a way that never made it into the movies

The real star of the movie is the City of Los Angeles - obviously fitting for a neo-noir about anonymity. Each frame could have easily been blown up into a coffee table-sized book of photographs.

― Elvis Telecom

This is why I'm glad Michael Mann placed, even if it was collateral. His movies are very pretty.

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#56

THE INCREDIBLES

Brad Bird
2004
United States
(209 points, 10 votes)

Not incredible. But very good. Too violent, too wise-cracking for me. A bit of the humor fell flat, but the action stuff was really edge-of-your seat stuff. It seems a dozen times more ambitious than any other Pixar project, and the only trade-off was that the intimacy and endearing slow-pace of the other films is totally dropped in a gonzo-off-the-wall breakneck speed.

Good times, otherwise.

― Remy (x Jeremy)

OH MAN WAS THE INCREDIBLES FUN. It basically hit on everything I loved about Modernist visual design ca. 1955-1975 (the villain's hideout, the copious usage of Eurostile font and the '63 Stingray/XKE/Mercedes 300SL-derived car Mr. Incredible drove in a couple scenes almost gave me aneurysms of joy). And in a naive innocent Who's-Ayn-Rand-wossa-libertarian-tort-reform-huh? mindset (like the one I went into this movie with, in total 'block all depressing conservatism for sanity's sake' mode) then it's a great, simple story about the benefits of nonconformity and America's sad obsession with rendering heroes mortal (see: every modern athlete ever). And it reminded me of Watchmen.

― MC Transmaniacon (natepatrin)

BOUND BOUND BOUND AND REBOUND
So yeah, The Incredibles was indeed pretty incredible. It had some of the best action sequences I've seen all year. I loved Samuel Jackson as FROZONE. Also, I took my son who now claims he IS Dash, and has been running ridiculously fast ever since we left the theater.

― nickalicious (nickalicious)

I just saw The Incredibles and it was very good!

if heat dont place im leaving

wonder if nickalicious' kid kept that up

you're right about that 'hey homie' scene, really great basic blocking, staging, timing, etc. i'd love to see tape of rehearsals of it.

xps re: collateral

<3 yo homie is that my briefcase scene

Zero chance Miami Vice is making it in here, right?

upper echelon bond is, i think:

dr. no
from russia with love
goldfinger
man with the golden gun

I bet Miami Vice does.

libertarian hero worship would be something people would have to seriously wrestle with if there were superheroes. unfortunately we argue about it now when there are just rich dweebs on the internet.

max, from russia with love is my #1

come on, you better believe bourne came up in the pitch for CR

― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:43 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

definitely, but when they were executing it martin campbell clearly did his own thing! the priority was definitely to distance from Die Another Day with a back to basics bond, but they were pretty thoughtful about making it a bond movie and not trying to transform it into bourne. the only parallel i feel i can credibly draw is an equivalent conviction about making the protag really badass and serious, but even then they're still treated as distinct characters

just realized that die another day is an acronym for DAD

where's the thread where everyone muses thoughtfully about how The Incredibles is a Randian wank fantasy

xp: lol apparently goole remembers it too

Goldeneye is still my favorite Bond - Xenia Onatopp, Pierce Brosnan is really good, great action sequences, best video game tie-in

I really, really like all of Brosnan's Bond movies

hell, I'm trying to think of a Bond movie I dislike; the closest I get is You Only Live Twice

I like The Incredibles but have always had lots of problems with it, from the neo-con undercurrent to the fact that it's the only Pixar movie that could have been made live action without really changing anything.

(And then of course Brad Bird goes on to do MI4)

the Denise Richards/Brosnan Bond was the absolute worst, though

hell, I'm trying to think of a Bond movie I dislike; the closest I get is You Only Live Twice

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:51 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

you only live twice is legit my 3rd fav bond

who cares xxp

Though I don't think MI4 would have worked as a cartoon.

you're really holding it against the incredibles that its not about fish or something??

The Incredibles was such a bad turn for Pixar, from the shit politics to the shit being too long to the shit message

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#55

ENTER THE DRAGON

Robert Clouse
1973
Hong Kong
(211 points, 12 votes)

naturally search Enter the Dragon, repeatedly, while drunk or even hungover. It is the all-purpose film.

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy)

i want to say more abt enter the dragon cos i do think it's an amazing film, but i haven't seen it in forever. i can't remember what its problems are with any detail. i remember LEE, bolo yeung, the mirrors, some architecture, fake blood, and john saxon's burgundy turtleneck.

― g--ff (gcannon)

In Enter the Dragon, John Saxon has a fight scene on a golf course in which he gets a IRL boner during (its real obvious too and hillarious), and thats a choreographed fight! Imagine how many boners pop when dudes fight for real.

― Green Manalishi (Viceroy)

awesome movie tho xp

xpost Not really. It just disappointed me at the time that an animated film with such pedigree, which could literally do anything it wanted to on screen, basically did the X-Men (with a good script). Just a relative failure of technology and imagination, I guess, however slight.

toy story movies are my least fave pixar movies. i didn't mind incredibles.

are all of disney's non-animal movies "failures of technology and animation"?

as a follow up to The Iron Giant, The Incredibles was a crushing disappointment

I think it's kind of hilarious that a movie mostly about a mid-life crisis creates all these "omg so CONSERVATIVE" responses, particularly when the most neo-conny character in the story is the villain

incredibles is stylized in a way that you could never, ever do in live action - or at least a live-action film even close to that would have to be like 75% cgi

enter the dragon is great because bruce lee is in it and bruce lee was one of the most phenomenal human beings who ever lived.