Movies That Were Probably Made By a Spasm of Six Year-Olds on Acid: The Top 75 Action Films Poll Results Thread

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I liked Casino Royale a lot. The one after it is utterly incoherent, though.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

casino royale sucks

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

ya quantum of solace was sooooo bad

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

CR gets points for the introduction of the seatless ball-slapping torture chair.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

wasnt the bad guy in quantum trying to do something really mundane like control water rights in bolivia or something?

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

Casino Royale is amazing

Quantam of Solace is very silly but I enjoyed it

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

it beat goldfinger proving you guys h8 bond

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

CR gets points for the introduction of the seatless ball-slapping torture chair.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:26 AM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was in the book too and i remember wondering whether it'd be in the movie and then when i saw the dude cutting out the bottom of the chair i nearly fainted

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

all bonds kinda look alike to me. i mean i would watch any of them if i was bored and had nothing to do. but picking favorites is too much work.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

i actually liked remington steele bonds too. i like them all kinda.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

Tracer's dissection of that scene in CR is really brilliant. As was Drew Daniel's takedown of Sin City up-thread. Both of you, thank you.

one little aioli (Laurel), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know why I didn't consider The Fugitive. It maintained high-tension throughout with some good wise-cracks, and a great pairing of likely and unlikely hero types matching wits.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

i gave casino royale 34 points and i could've spared some more. i think its the 2nd best bond movie ever, with a thin margin b/w 1st and 2nd. craig & green have awesome chemistry, the action is inventive & exciting and superbly staged, its just a fuckin ownage movie. im a lifelong bond fan so i probably dig it more than i would if i was just appreciating it as a good action picture, but fuck, i think its great on its own merits

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not a big fan but Casino Royale is quite distinct from the previous ones

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

(in that it's largely a Bourne rip-off)

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

i did not like either of the new bonds because they were not funny

"renegade" gnome (remy bean), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

Tracer's dissection of that scene in CR is really brilliant. As was Drew Daniel's takedown of Sin City up-thread. Both of you, thank you.

― one little aioli (Laurel), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:29 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah, i also always loved this post by trace:

haha i almost forgot to mention how amazing the shower scene was! this girl is truly shaken by what she has just seen and overcome with fear about - well EVERYTHING: almost dying, the reality of what her boyfriend is going through, her growing interest in bond and knowing the betrayal that lies (lays?) ahead; she is shattered.

and bond sits down with her, gives her a big shoulder to lean on. so touching. and then - starts sucking on her fingers??! he is totally emotionally INEPT. "chicks always dig it when i suck on their fingers... so uh that oughtta do the trick amirite?"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, November 22, 2006 2:33 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

i liked casino royale because the bad guy had asthma and a badass silver inhaler

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

What the bond movies have going for them is that they barely make any sense. I voted for zero bond movies, which is weird because they obv meet one of my most important criteria.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

I want to say CR is the only Bond film with credible, visceral action.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

(in that it's largely a Bourne rip-off)

― Number None, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:30 AM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah, no, not at all - you could make that argument for QoS, but not CR

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

texas hold 'em scene & chris cornell theme are disgusting but casino royale is otherwise fantastic

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

lol Slocki

wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

I want to say CR is the only Bond film with credible, visceral action.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:31 AM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark

there's one other, which i voted for

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

Lol the finger-sucking was SO WEIRD that it cut down into "any form of human contact that will get through to someone"-territory and somehow got by.

one little aioli (Laurel), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

casino royale was amazing until vesper kidnap/ball torture, pacing after that felt off imo. Still vv good.

beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

lol Slocki

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:32 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

signed asthmatic film fan

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/collateral-1.png

#57

COLLATERAL

Michael Mann
2004
United States
(207 points, 7 votes)

I thought the movie was pretty awesome. Although I've spent most of my life avoiding movies and TV shows about hitmen, and so maybe I'm less tired of the cliches! Or probably what makes up for it being a "crime" film in my mind is all the gorgeous cinematography and the kind of existentialism that Edelstein riffs on. And strong performances from both Cruise and Foxx. (It's another one of Cruise's recent roles that uses negative aspects of his image well: there's something almost robotic about Vincent's cocksure attitude.) (I will say, though, that as much as I like Mark Ruffalo, I think he was miscast as a narcotics officer; he's too much of a brooder for a role like that.)

― jaymc

The real star of the movie is the City of Los Angeles - obviously fitting for a neo-noir about anonymity. Each frame could have easily been blown up into a coffee table-sized book of photographs.

― Elvis Telecom

this movie was awesome and all the haetrs are wrong. the most impresive thing technicaly was the scene where javier bardem tells his mexican santa claus story (that bit was needlessly tarantionoesque. just as the bodyguard totign two guns in the nihgtclub was needlessly wooesque. and the axe-to-the-power-line scene was too "die hard" - how did vincent know where the main lien was? he didnt have a plan of the building, did he? anyway. minor quibbles. bardem, santa claus) and the camera does NOT do that anoying slow zoom in that is usualy done in long dialog takes BUT INSTEAD does a number of tiny little quick zoom ins! simulatign blood pulsing behing the viewers eyeballs. and thus visualizing foxxes rising adrenaline level. the overdone camera gimick of the future, seen here first!

― :|

i am actually looking forward to "collateral"

omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

you are flat out crazy if you don't think Bourne was a huge influence on where they went with Casino Royale

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

collats! forgot about that one

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

How is Casino Royale not a Bourne ripoff???

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

didnt realize jaymc was on the run from hitmen this whole time

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

they even have the same second unit director iirc

Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

well then that settles it.

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

one of the best moments of mann & cruise's careers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMdV_qSbmhI

i saw it at the hood theater when it came out and the audience went nuts at this scene. so awesome

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

i liked collateral a bunch and i will always wish someone really cool had starred in it. the movie was good despite the obvious non-badass flaws of its 3 foot tall leading man.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

I love Collateral. Features one of the most subtle timeline tricks of any movie I've ever seen.

SPOILER

Jamie Foxx's cab driver is so good that he gets Jada to the office too early, thus throwing off Tom Cruise's assassination schedule and setting the whole movie in motion, a point that is never mentioned or even inferred in the movie.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

I had completely wiped this movie out of my memory for some reason. Glad the poll reminded me of it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

i saw collateral in a movie theater in bishops-stortford after i'd been barred from taking a flight to berlin on account of my passport being too dinged up. it was EXACTLY what i needed.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

Also, totally affirms Mann's love of digital. As he's pointed out, chemical film could never have captured the twilight haze of late-night urban illumination.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

How is Casino Royale not a Bourne ripoff???

― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

perhaps you should make a case for it? is it because bond did martial arts in it? not a new feature for a bond movie. is it because of the serious tone? again, not new. cinematically it wasn't similar to anything greengrass was doing at that time, and the bulk of the screenplay was based on the novel. QoS is more blatantly working in the bourne tradition, but i dont see it with CR

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

well the parkour opening definitely felt a bit like, 'let's get with the times here'

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

lol parkour

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

it's been a while but I also don't remember a ton of quick-cut shakycam in Casino Royale, which is IMO the main identifier of a Bourne clone

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

Jamie Foxx's cab driver is so good that he gets Jada to the office too early, thus throwing off Tom Cruise's assassination schedule and setting the whole movie in motion, a point that is never mentioned or even inferred in the movie.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:38 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i... never picked this up

i ended up not really liking this movie only because i could never disbelieve enough. assassin gets a cab? how about renting a car.

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

yeah sure, getting with the times, but clearly more in a 'whoa did you guys see this bitchen District B13 thing' kind of way

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

come on, you better believe bourne came up in the pitch for CR

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

they were always trying to snazz up bond movies. since the the 70's.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

ade what's your #1 bond? casino royale is definitely up there for me, maybe my favorite. ive read that the second one got kinda gutted during the writers strike which is why its so incoherent

max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

i dig collateral, i think of it more as a drama/thriller but i suppose there is enough action in it. to me its more memorable as a movie with great moments in it than as a great movie

RudolfHitlerFtw (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)


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