http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/templedoom.jpg
^^ best shot in the movie. Just watched this the other night and it really stood out as a spectacular shot.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:05 (fourteen years ago)
I remember going to Gatorland in Florida, where they claimed they trained/sourced the alligators used in this movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:05 (fourteen years ago)
Man, this is old, but really funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aDFeFwxymA&feature=player_embedded
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:06 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/KlnUD.png
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:21 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1-oc8MHni8
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:25 (fourteen years ago)
Shit...voted in the nominating poll but not the actual one.
Temple of Doom is only the third best of the 80s Indys but still pretty damn good. Took me quite a long time to warm to, though. Didn't really get it til I started to see it as the "disreputable" Raiders. Like a tribute to those 40s serials with the racism and low taste in tact.
The Hurt Locker is awesome and definitely not Oscar bait. Every now and then the academy just gets it right.
Die Hard With a Vengeance is simply a joy. The ultimate ridiculous popcorn action flick. Really, only Raiders keeps it rom bing my fave action flick of all time.
I really need to finally see Branded To Kill and Con Air.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:49 (fourteen years ago)
really sad that i'll miss all the countdown fun because of stupid time differences. awesome countdown, can't wait to see the rest. and glad to see far upthread that i wasn't the only tsui hark voter
― Jibe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:51 (fourteen years ago)
For tht mattter need to see Apocalypto, Assault and Vanishing Point as well. Gotta emit tt the gay bashing scene excerpted in The Celluloiud Closet had always sorta scared me away from the latter.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:55 (fourteen years ago)
*gotta admit
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
I voted Temple of Doom higher than the other 2 Indys because for whatever reason Temple of Doom was the one I had on tape when I was a kid and I would just watch it over and over. As an adult I can see that it's probably the worst of the three movies but it's hard to argue against 11 year old me.
― silverfish, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:12 (fourteen years ago)
as long as you accept that 11 year old you was racist I guess
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:13 (fourteen years ago)
Hey, I made Time and Tide my #2, so it should get a tiny boost. Whiiiich may be the only points it gets. ;_;
― one little aioli (Laurel), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)
<3 harrison ford watches indiana jones
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:33 (fourteen years ago)
i love action movies like damn but i don't know how these threads work ohwell! will keep reading tho
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:34 (fourteen years ago)
could you guys start calling Black Hawk Down racist, please
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
Vanishing Point as well. Gotta emit tt the gay bashing scene excerpted in The Celluloiud Closet had always sorta scared me away from the latter.
Somebody could write a good article/essay about homo hitchhiker scenes in 70s road films. VP, Two-Lane, Five Easy Pieces all have 'em. Was this something that scared people back then?
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:01 (fourteen years ago)
And Mean Streets, sort of. (They weren't hitchhikers, though, and it wasn't a road movie.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:05 (fourteen years ago)
Apocalypto has no business working, but it totally does
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:39 (fourteen years ago)
next poll should be top 75 racist movies
― iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:40 (fourteen years ago)
laurel, time & time def still has a chance of placing, we're in the early stages here and i'm sure everyone's voted for this awesome movie. right everyone?
― Jibe, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:52 (fourteen years ago)
The lesbians in Five Easy Pieces never struck me as objects of fear/derision.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:06 (fourteen years ago)
If I'd voted in this, Temple of Doom may have been my number 1.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:13 (fourteen years ago)
Toni Basil's fairly chill, but Helena Kallianiotes comes off as such shrill harpy (or stereotypical cruel butch dyke) I imagine 1970 audiences may have cheered her getting thrown out of the car.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:49 (fourteen years ago)
and in 2LB, Oates just snaps at H D Stanton, "I ain't got time for that!"
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:37 (fourteen years ago)
Black Hawk Down is like Assault on Precinct 13 in Somalia.
I interviewed Kal Penn once, and he related the total hell of going to school after the release of "Temple of Doom" and enduring weeks and weeks of racist teasing. "Oh, what do you have for lunch, Kal? Monkey brains?"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:38 (fourteen years ago)
Huh. I brought up ToD in the context of "Short Round" in the Long Duk Dong thread yesterday. Nobody responded though.
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:56 (fourteen years ago)
Also, I didn't vote in this, but I would be surprised if Big Trouble in Little China didn't place. It would have been on my ballot, but I feel sorta weird about that too. Anyway, interesting after all the racism discussions of the last few weeks that people felt chill enough to vote for ToD.
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:00 (fourteen years ago)
Huh, I don't think of Big Trouble ... as racist. I think of it as pretty Chinese-forward, actually. Silly though it may be, Kurt Russell is definitely the comic relief buffoon, always out of his element and playing catch-up. How many fights begin with him immediately getting knocked out while his Chinese crew kicks ass?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)
Like, it's as if Kurt Russell were literally dropped in the middle of some crazy Chinese actioner, like Zu Warriors or something.
(Hmm, will Super Cop make the cut? Drunken Master 2? Any Hong Kong?)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:40 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, that was sorta the idea I forwarded in the LDD thread, but it's one of those things where I don't know if I'm being blind (see the billboards of Duluth).
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:40 (fourteen years ago)
My "weirdness" criteria being "would I feel comfortable suggesting to a Chinese friend that we watch this?" and my answer being "I hadn't thought of that before, but now it's bothering me."
― things you're secretly kinda libertranny about (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:42 (fourteen years ago)
Like, I certainly would feel like an ass suggesting to a South Asian friend that we watch Temple of Doom, for instance.
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:44 (fourteen years ago)
But Temple of Doom IS racist, quaintly, retro-y racist or no. Big Trouble essentially is a crazed wuxia film.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:53 (fourteen years ago)
I don't know enough about Chinese cinema to be able to acknowledge or refute there. I totally assume that it was made with those intentions, and I love the movie. I'm just not sure how it comes off.
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
I would err on the side of defending it too. It's just I'm not confident.
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
shit forgot the other guys too
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:59 (fourteen years ago)
Apocalyptico is definitely pro-hick.
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
rewatching temple of doom like 5 years ago i really was blown away by how incredibly racist it was (and how it ended with the colonial british saving the day)
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 14:49 (fourteen years ago)
however, the fact that black hawk down can be compared to it, and that some ppl like that film, completely absolves it of course
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
We all know that the colonial British were about ending child labor abroad and returning property to the locals so ToD was historically accurate imho
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 14:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'll just let Armond take over, bye
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/images/20/armond.jpg
Thanks, Doc. And now, my picks for more of the best action movies of all time.
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:07 (fourteen years ago)
It's been a while since I saw it, but I think Short Round even gets his own Asian-y John Williams motif.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:08 (fourteen years ago)
so you're saying it's not an action movie it's a racist movie
― beware of greek bearer bonds (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
It's most of an action-racist movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:09 (fourteen years ago)
Action-racist-adventure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtvwFLIEkK0
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
i guess technically in TOD the plot IS resolved thru racism
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
contains mild yellow peril
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/sincity.jpg
#65
SIN CITY
Robert Rodriguez & Frank Miller2005United States(174 pints, 5 votes)
Guns & tittays & old cars & hot chicks & cool music & interior monologues & rear-projection & killer ninja hookers & more guns!
The pacing was off on a coupla places, but i thought the rest of the flick flowed quite well. Plus, it was hilarious to hear the "(Not Quite) Peter Gunn Theme" play thru-out.
― kingfish van pickles (Kingfish)
Everybody BUT me seemed to love it, and I was kind of sad that I couldn't feel the same way. When you take away the movie's relation/debt to its source material, it seemed like so much wank-fodder for the CRWs of this world. It was just adolescent in a really terrible way, and I say this as a married man in his mid-to-late 20s who has a stack of comic books on his nightstand and has spent most of the morning falling off of a skateboard.
I totally give credit for the film for getting that comic book interior monologue thing down, but yet this also made for an incredibly dull film. I just failed to find entertainment in being treated to image after image of ACTION paired with that utterly relentless voiceover. Any drama/tension in the film just seemed to come from the voiceover or occasionally an ironic interplay between voiceover and image that seemed very one-note after half an hour. I have just never felt so passive and fidgety while watching an action film, couldn't engage with it at all.
― Airtube (nordicskilla)
I was very torn by this movie. On the one hand: totally gorgeous looking, fantastically complete and immersive visual world, non-stop action, well edited, thoroughly "entertaining", fun fun fun. So it totally works at being what it's trying to be, which is a film adaptation of a comic book. So it's not as if it's a failure, and the reviews which allege that it is too violent clearly just don't get the horror/comic book context, nor do I buy the idea that it's ultimately "dull" because it's so focused. So on all those fronts, it's a great film as an experience for the eyes and ears. On the other hand: what we have is a film adapatation of a comic book adaptation of noir as a template, so this triple amplified chain of exaggerrating something that was an exaggerration of something that was already very crude becomes very dodgy in relation to gender and how "maleness" and "femaleness" get visually realized and scripted. I found it a kind of embarassing reductio ad absurdum of cartoon lovin' fanboy heterosexual male desire: hookers (with hearts of gold!) innocent wittle schoolgirls (that you get to watch grow up just enough so that you can fuck them! and when you do it's because THEY PUSH THEMSELVES ON YOU! yeah that happens ALL the time!) ie. there's this fucked up centrifugal engine at work in which women are desirable yet continually the objects of extremely sadistic violent energies- the plots try to resolve this thorugh splitting- there is the "evil psychopath" who incarnates the direct sexual sadism (the bad guys) and then there are the good guys who as vigilante figures outside the law etc. just go out and seek to do good in the name of the ladies they love (the absent "good" women who sit on the sidelines and suffer, and look awfully good as they suffer) which makes them laughably improbable and corny, and the whole thing, when viewed coldly and dispassionately, looks pretty sad, a pure distillation of adolescent flight from what sex is like, what interactions between men and women are like, the compromises and shadings of, um, actual human people. So yes the picture succeeds at being a gorgeous comic book, but in the process the intensely adult precision of its art direction and focus reveals very clearly that it was made by people who know that these plotlines and characters are utterly flat and clichéd which means that you have a creeping sensation of void or flight that washes over you.
To put it another way: The question for Rosario isn't "omg, you played a prostitute, that must have been hard, eh?" but "geeze isn't it corny that somebody is so out of touch with what an actual prostitute's life is like that they when they stage a gang of prostitutes they basically look like Tekken fighters as dressed by Hot Topic?". I know the knee jerk response is Dude, it's a comic book what do you expect? to which I would reply "the plot of your comic book makes the way you think about women and the way you think about yourself extremely obvious, and the relentless violence of that vision and the virgin/whore clichés that drive your fantasies seem really obvious and worn-out".
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel)
i've always enjoyed sin city comics in the same way i like chick comics, similar cartoonish bleakness, better art/design in sin city comics, better plots in chick comics. trying to say anything about comics or noir in general based on either is a bit ludicrous. i enjoyed the movie despite itself, except for some bad acting everything i didn't like i was familiar with from the comics and some things that were boring cliche in the comic were fun ridiculous cliche in the movie. the movie was much much more ridiculous (or at least the process of making it a movie, having people say what amster called on this thread or the other that 'looney tunes dialogue' out loud, brought the corniness/ridiculousness to the fore) than the comic, punctured the pofaced 'seriousness' of miller's schtick. i also really like that a movie with nudity in it is number one in america and really really really really like that a movie in which the hero kills a priest and a cardinal and the audience roots for it is number one the weekend the pope dies.
― j blount (papa la bas)
"amster" makes me sound like a light beer!
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist))
DUDE, SIN CITY WAS GREAT!
― omar little, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:16 (fourteen years ago)