Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

please tell me you made up those 'Arry quotes right?

Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg

Throughout this depressing saga, Dalglish has promoted a sense of paranoia, a feeling that the club have been hard done-by, ill-used, savagely put-upon. He has conjured the notion of a vast conspiracy directed at Liverpool, without ever explaining the logic or the motives behind such a movement.

... this is the guy who tried (was forced into) managing Celtic for the best part of a season, think that explains a lot

he behaved like a bar-room bully

Bollocks. Dalglish just isn't the type... unlike Ferguson.

now the sickening dread at the prospect of Bruce can begin

http://www.nigerianelitesforum.com/ng/sports/12293-when-aaron-ramsey-of-arsenal-fc-scores-celebrity-dies.html#post21165

that steve bruce is never that far way from a premier league job is disproportionately depressing to me.

not as depressing as it is to me right now

but surely not?

surely, tbh

Buggers belief

Is he at least tactically competent? Genuine question, I have no memory of anything in his career except being the patsy in Ferguson's 70th birthday embarrassment.

it wd be hard to be less tactically competent than McCarthy but i feel like Bruce is probably on a level with him

but god i don't want to get all excited about competent.

also Terry Connor needs to be got rid of as soon as a new manager's appointed. if anything i suspect Connor's been the tactical mastermind under Mick.

Be LOLsome if Roy Keane got the job

i wd be all in favour of Keane tbh

possibly because of revenge fantasies about some of our squad

You do need to keep up the ex-Celtic player numbers as well, (Steve) Kean's only just hanging on after all ... not to mention Dalglish! So Malky Mackay for Wolves then?

There's hope yet, Bruce drifting badly after making the early running - 8/1 from 4/1 earlier. Curbishley the new frontrunner at sevens. But wait - Rafa also drifting, down there at 16/1.

It's almost like nobody's got a clue.

Bruce is pretty limited as a manager but he'd keep that Wolves team in the Premiership and you'd be able to build from there. McCarthy has always been shit, he was a complete disaster at Sunderland.

i literally have no idea whether most of our squad are Premiership class and i don't think anybody will know until they've had a chance under a competent tactician

You'd take Curbs over Bruce surely? Rafa over anyone though.

I've always viewed Bruce as more of a steward than a manager. I can't associate him with any particular style of play, type of player that he favours or any personality whatsoever besides generic good-natured Geordie. He might keep them up in the way that a new manager just reinvigorates regardless of who it is, but that's hardly progress, is it?

Wasn't it the case when Sunderland sacked him that Mick was simultaneously the most successful Championship/Div1 manager and least successful Premiership manager in both league's histories (measured in points-per-game)? I think he took Millwall to 3rd, took over Sunderland to take them down, got them to the play-offs then got them up as champions then straight back down with a handful of points.

i literally have no idea whether most of our squad are Premiership class

What if they aren't? What if they were only still scraping their place in the league thanks to what Mick could get out of them?

(I was thinking of a thread along those lines - like "is your club's position reflective of its quality?" or something like that)

xpost to self

I mean staying up is obv better than going down but Bruce just seems like the obvious, risk/return-free, affordable choice.

Prepared to concede I may have my assessment completely wrong and just be basing it all on his face tho.

mccarthy isn't shit - i think he gets a harder time than he deserves, and at least did well in the championship at sunderland - but it was certainly time for wolves to let him go. bruce will not get another premier league job, though it's not inconveivable that he could be back in the premier league one day via promotion. curbishley will probably get the wolves job, which is not an exciting propspect, but not an altogether unpleasant one either

Cd live with Curbs, Rafa wd be fascinating but i can't see Morgan paying Rafa wages. Wd detest Bruce.

What if they were only still scraping their place in the league thanks to what Mick could get out of them?

the problem with this of course is that these are almost all players that mick bought in or has consistently chosen to play, long past the point of common sense in some cases cough*karlhenry*cough

I've always viewed Bruce as more of a steward than a manager. I can't associate him with any particular style of play, type of player that he favours or any personality whatsoever

My flatmate hates Bruce and often goes on about this. He really is kind of an anonymous character

Obv. no-one would want Steve Bruce managing their football team. Is Curbishley still looking for work, he seems a bit longterm unemployed to me. Is Billy Davies too much of a pain in the arse? Would any of the up and coming managers outside the Prem. want to manage Wolves?

mccarthy can't really consider himself harshly done by. the performances this season have been woeful, with perhaps 5 or 6 exceptions. the sheer number of goals we've shipped is testament to a failure to get even the fundamentals in place. whether he's better in the championship or not i think he's too tactically inept to cut it in the game now and too pig-headed to get people around him who can do tactics.

Billy Davies wd be a treat tbh. Ince wd be...interesting. I'd take Woy if the Albion fans weren't back in love with him after yesterday. Ideally I want somebody with vision and given the time and patience to build that, tbh. I want a bit of ethos.

odds on McCarthy to Leeds are shortening fast, apparently.

Freedman and Solskjær are two names being kicked about lower down the bookies' lists. Dunno what odds are based on other than the first few linters through the doors though.

Linters? Punters.

i like Dougie Freedman and wdn't wish the damned utd on him

Ey up, lad, I reckon the linters have got the treadle athwart down at t' mill, I tell thee (xp)

Those were for The Damned Wanderers

Bruce would probably do better than many of these names in terms of keeping Wolves up but it might be better to get relegated and rebuild in the Championship with someone actually talented on board.

What might be more likely happen is that you end up with Warnock or someone and make no net improvement whatsoever.

ok i like Dougie Freedman and wd welcome him to the Voyage of the Damned

Wtf is a linter? Why does my autocorrect know that and not punter?

every word of that post is true Matt except i wd substitute "would" for "might"

David O'Leary, I think, is who you want. I.e. Mick McCarthy but not.

Having checked his Wiki he appears to be available and also was born in Stoke Newington.

Ideally I want somebody with vision and given the time and patience to build that, tbh. I want a bit of ethos.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/phil-brown-wetherby-415x275.jpg

HE'S READY.

can O'Leary manage a club who don't want to go bankrupt?

o'leary is the biggest wanker in football mgmt, a real prick

I know. He was born in Stoke Newington.

He's even more long term unemployed than Curbishley

maybe Capello wd like to continue working in England

alternatively this dude looks pretty ready tbh:
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Jewell.jpg

sorry.