ongoing racist bullshit in arizona thread

internet konked out last night, so this is like 12 hours late, but uh...

this is also an argument against our system of city boundaries fwiw

― iatee, Friday, February 10, 2012 11:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, it's an argument that identifies problems in the way things are. and that's valuable, but are you really proposing a solution to any of this? if we redraw city and state boundaries every few years to reflect changes in populations and industries, then we create this massive, awful political football that gets tossed around endlessly. there's efficiency in inefficiency, reason to let sleeping dogs lie. just because a problem can be identified does not mean that a fix is required. better to have no answer than a bad one. but yeah, i agree w/ n-i-c-k that it's useful to discuss this stuff, even if no solution is forthcoming.

well am I proposing a solution that could happen w/ our current system of gov't and w/ the assumption that in the big picture americans are rational political actors? no. our current system has vested interests. people who currently benefit from our ridiculous state boundaries might not even know they have vested interests, but if the subject ever came up, nobody is going to give up what they have. people in wyoming are not gonna say "wow it's pretty ridiculous how much power we have considering that we only exist as a regional body for historical reasons, let's vote for a senator who votes his office out of existence and a system that ensures that we don't get a disproportionate amount of resources sent to the magical lines that constitute 'wyoming'.

congressional districts already are a political football that get tossed around endlessly. it's annoying, gerrymandering is awful and there should and can be a a better way, but nobody argues that it would be better if we still had the same congressional district boundaries as we did when america had 50 million people.

in the end you're going to have to draw a line in the sand w/r/t how often regional boundaries are redrawn, how they're redrawn and why. but should they be, at least, idk, once every hundred years? yes. and should they be roughly equal in political representation on a national level, so we don't allow rural interests to run a country in the 21st century? yes.

people in wyoming are not gonna say "wow it's pretty ridiculous how much power we have..."

^^ this is why any radical (or even signifigant) political reorganization of the USA will not happen without a deep, rather fast-developing political crisis to drive it.

iatee otm

Not racist, but still lol Arizona. Seriously, this place is just Crazypantstown.

Five GOP Senators in Arizona have introduced a bill in Arizona that would make the lives of teachers and professors a living hell inside and outside of school. Senator Al Melvin, Senator Andy Biggs, Senator Don Shooter, Senator Lori Klein, and Senator Steve Smith are the sponsors of SB 1467, which would prohibit teachers from engaging in “speech or conduct that would violate the standards adopted by the federal communications commission concerning obscenity, indecency and profanity if that speech or conduct were broadcast on television or radio.” In other words, teachers can’t do things that aren’t allowed on television.

what the fuck

that seems . . . unconstitutional

haha mookie

what on earth

i wonder if there is even the thinnest membrane of a real issue behind that. did a teacher get caught with a party video on youtube or something recently?

probably just fucking with the teachers' union

does that include, like, reading out loud from/discussing books in an English class? wait, Arizona already banned all the books.

xp seems like it's got to be in response to something, yeah. and spectacularly ill thought-through.

i am assuming this is meant to be a blanket code of behavior even beyond school hours.

yeah that's certainly how it reads!

So their sex lives will all be 'fade to black'?

Make sure to click through for the full text of the bill. It's just bonkers.

they're occasionally allowed to show their butt iirc

even in class

can you subscribe to a teacher's life to get more racy content?

i have tried and the answer is no

Great way to give in to big Washington government bureaucracy - it's unaccountable FCC that regulates what you can put on the airwaves.

this is next-level

So...they can't ever use the bathroom.

Yeah I mean

they're occasionally allowed to use a public restroom but each time they do there has to be something interesting that happens, like they bump into a celebrity

lol

it's weird that republicans at this point have basically become life trolls

They're...I dunno, suicide bombers of a sort.

it's weird that republicans at this point have basically become life trolls

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:28 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I've been saying they're the Troll Party for several years. They're now purely reactive and oppositional.

It makes them funnier than democrats, and people love that.

New GOP symbol:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6395001733_51958dea3b_z.jpg

I just called my state senator and the intern on the phone says voting for it isn't on the agenda this week, next week is a House bill, if it doesn't get attached to another bill, it's not going anywhere. According to her. But I ranted to her about my emphatic desire for a "no" vote anyway. Why the hell would I look for a job here or live here after I graduate and become a teacher with a bill like that in place? There's so little incentive to be a teacher here in the first place.

haha yeah i keep reminding myself not to look for teaching jobs in AZ

No we need all the awesome anti-racist people we can get!

I do plan on sticking around if I can get a job in townbut if something like this bill passes, I would say 'fuck off.'

i think i would get fired in five seconds flat tbh but <3

xp there's no way this can possibly pass, right?

feel like i just jinxed it

P sure this will not pass but *crazier things have happened.*

well that thing with chandler was nuts

This could pass but its not going to get past the state supreme court if it even gets that far. I think this is something even Gov. Brewer might veto.

http://azstarnet.com/news/opinion/editorial/do-pupils-ears-need-protection-from-vile-teachers/article_215f5791-7ea9-5a0f-b87d-2f1e740291b6.html

LOCAL PAPER OP-ED and it reads just like one

LOL so many scare quotes!

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/18/conservative-gop-arizona-sheriffand-mitt-romney-az-campaign-co-chairpledges-to-deport-illegal-immigrants

way more LOL than the url would indicate

that article is really ridiculous and worth a read, but:

"A blowjob isn't the kind of "first response" the bigots at CPAC had in mind, Sheriff Babeu"

is this really an acceptable sentiment in a news article? the fact that its used to poke fun at bigots doesn't make this any less homophobic. not to mention calling him a "cocksucking hypocrite." keep in mind babeu is openly gay, and threatening to deport a former partner is not really a sexuality-specific issue

A Dan Savage blog entry doesn't qualify as a news article, though. Was Babeu out before the Phoenix New Times article appeared?

that Dan Savage, such a homophobe

My sense is he was not out, in any commonly used meaning of the term.

he said in his adam 4 adam profile that he was out, but that could be a lie

i'd have a hard time believing that he was

afaict Babeu was never open about his sexuality until this blew up.