while we're whining about the church, i'm fully aware that the catholic hierarchy is concerned with things beyond other people's baby-making.
there's a relatively new archbishop here in st paul, mn, after the boomer-era guy died. the new dude can be fairly called a ratzingerite, very bright, very learned, very aggressive, very hard-line. there have been notable controversies:
an inner-city church and its priest were threatened in language approaching excommunication for failing to be 100% zealously in favor of an anti-gay-marriage amendment in the works here.
much more locally, a few years ago, a local catholic college, (upon whose board of regents the archbishop sits) suddenly prevented a beloved and well-respected prof from bringing her unmarried partner (also an academic) along on an overseas study program. this had gone on without incident for years. well, the administration. "refused to pay for dual lodgings" and also refused to allow them to stay in the same room with tender students present. the woman quit.
but we're kind of far away from the primaries now aren't we.
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
sometimes you'd almost like that to be what happens - like ideally, the catholic institutions could do what they wanted, and people wouldn't work for them, and so they'd realize that and change their mind. but w/ something like the academic job market - they can probably dictate terms.
― iatee, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
Love that Mark Block quote from the interview upthread:
"I'm surprised to see you smoking!" I said.
"The cigarette is smoking," he said. "I'm just here."
― Nicole, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
sometimes you'd almost like that to be what happens - like ideally, the catholic institutions could do what they wanted, and people wouldn't work for them, and so they'd realize that and change their mind.
Yes, this. Or to be served BY them, which unfortunately is also not the case with hospitals.
― one little aioli (Laurel), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
(ok i know this is way o/t now but the university i was talking about just made the news again here
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
)
i imagine that "contraception" is seen as a sort of trojan horse
lol
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ my contribution
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:14 (fourteen years ago)
A Trojan horse of a different color
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
lol me
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
Useful bits for this week:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/10/their-bluff-has-been-called-will-the-bishops-know-when-to-fold-em/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/10/old-men-pretending-to-be-newly-upset-at-old-news/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/09/bishops-and-burkhas-and-buggies/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/02/08/bishops-vs-health-care-for-women-contd/
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 10 February 2012 22:39 (fourteen years ago)
The awkward elements of Mitt Romney’s speech at CPAC Friday began even before the GOP frontrunner opened his mouth.
Like all the high-profile speakers before him, Romney delivered his address from the CPAC main stage at a Marriot hotel in Washington, DC. That means he stood behind a pair of teleprompters and in front of a pair of fake Grecian columns.
Just the other night, when he was giving his address amid the defeats in Missouri, Minnesota and Colorado, Romney took a shot at the man he’s trying to oust from the White House for - well - using teleprompters and standing in front of fake columns. Here’s part of the transcript from Romney’s Colorado speech on February 7):
Three years ago, Barack Obama came to Colorado to accept his Party’s nomination. He rented out a huge stadium. He hauled in some Styrofoam Greek columns and two giant screens to set the mood. On that big stage in Denver, he made some even bigger promises.
― lag∞n, Friday, 10 February 2012 23:12 (fourteen years ago)
Phase IV of Newt's master plan: unleash Callista.
― clemenza, Friday, 10 February 2012 23:37 (fourteen years ago)
has anyone read any catholic defenses of the view that covering contraception benefits is 'subsidizing' (condoning, etc.) something even though the same thing being done out of individual employee pay is somehow not? i keep waiting for complicated talk about 'intention' and action/inaction/knowledge/ignorance to come up.
― j., Friday, 10 February 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)
CPAC represent!
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/426123_10150581338009197_19182454196_8606988_969408229_n.jpg
Chuck Norris and Lord Vigo together at last!
― polyphonic, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)
beautiful
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:33 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/09/cpac_welcomes_white_nationalists/singleton/
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
wow, really looking forward to that avengers movie.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:38 (fourteen years ago)
have we talked about this somewhere?
http://tyrannyoftradition.com/2012/02/10/rick-santorum-declares-war-on-heavy-metal/
“If you listen to the radio today, many of these brand new, so-called heavy metal music bands like Black Sabbath, Venom, The WASP and Iron Maiden use satanic imagery to corrupt the minds of young people,” announced Santorum at a 10,000 dollar a plate sock-hop in Valdosta, Georgia on Thursday.
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:23 (fourteen years ago)
oh, that's satire. pardon me.
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:24 (fourteen years ago)
Just saw one of Paul's senior advisors on Maddow and he says they probably have the most delegates so far using some sort of weird "sticking around and getting a delegate despite how the voting went down" strategy. Anybody understand this and could it be true?
― encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:50 (fourteen years ago)
melo is wearing a bowtie and has a decorative pair of glasses hanging from his jacket pocket
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:52 (fourteen years ago)
Read this.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:52 (fourteen years ago)
xpost
Unstable Breitbart is unstable. Who would've guessed?
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:28 (fourteen years ago)
ha hes such a classic 'whats wrong w/that guy'
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:33 (fourteen years ago)
that guy is either going to have a conversion, kill himself, or end up walking into a government building with a shotgun.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:38 (fourteen years ago)
he does an amazing job yelling in a tone perfect calibrated to make you want to crush him with a tree, though.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:39 (fourteen years ago)
reminiscent of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLQ_Qh8INg
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:41 (fourteen years ago)
haha exactly
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:41 (fourteen years ago)
lol protester reaction 'that was so awesome!'
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:42 (fourteen years ago)
this is a great example about how finding a good chant can diffuse tension and sublimate desires to just punch assholes in the face. i wanted to reach into my computer screen and bitch slap and once the chanting got started i felt, "well, yeah, that'll do."
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 11 February 2012 03:46 (fourteen years ago)
I'm late together party here but that breitbart vid is the best thing.
― Clay, Saturday, 11 February 2012 09:42 (fourteen years ago)
BEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE
― and the answer is: Opinions differ. (stevie), Saturday, 11 February 2012 09:50 (fourteen years ago)
In the midst of chaos, recriminations, and self-doubt, guess who gives the keynote at CPAC today? Better yet, it's her birthday.
http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cleopatra-03292011.jpg
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:15 (fourteen years ago)
I'm glad I've got films to go to this afternoon, otherwise I'm sure I'd end up watching this all day:
http://cpac2012.conservative.org/
Dinesh D'Souza was just on talking about some article Obama's father wrote in 1965, and anti-colonialism, and 100% taxation, and William Ayers, and the whole nine yards. Like John McGiver says in Breakfast at Tiffany's, it gives one a feeling of solidarity, almost of continuity with the past, that sort of thing.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:04 (fourteen years ago)
perfect storm http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/professional-pick-up-artist-teaches-cpac-crowd-how-to-run-game.php
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:16 (fourteen years ago)
John Ziegler is of course a case but he seems to be revelling in his new role of "fuck all y'all"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-ziegler/cpac-2012_b_1261528.html
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:17 (fourteen years ago)
That white nationalists thing was pretty disgusting.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)
David Keene, president of the NRA, is on there right now to introduce John Bolton--who, Keene points out, used to work for him when Keene worked for...vice-president Agnew! Wow.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
quoting Bfast@Tiffanys the Sanitized Film is bad enough, but slandering Liz Taylor? get some help, clemenza.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)
Because you're a Dr., I will take this under advisement.
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 February 2012 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, no, sorry, screw John Ziegler forever.
http://johnziegler.com/editorials_details.asp?editorial=165
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
here the aforementioned PPP poll: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/02/santorum-surges-into-the-lead.html
38% to 23%
'Only 48% of voters say they're solidly committed to their current candidate choice, while 52% say they're open to changing their minds.' this far into the game is pretty amazing
― iatee, Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
In the midst of chaos, recriminations, and self-doubt
are you accusing sarah palin of self-doubt?
― mookieproof, Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/02/11/rachel-maddow-uncovered-the-secret-ron-paul-strategy
Rachel Maddow floated a theory that Ron Paul is urging his supporters to stay late at caucuses so that they can vote themselves in as delegates. Once they've become delegates, they can cast their vote for Ron Paul, against the will of the people who voted in their caucuses. A major Ron Paul adviser confirmed that this is the Ron Paul strategy
― who can judge namitha (toandos), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:44 (fourteen years ago)
Ron Paul strategy: take your right hand and spread its fingers widely and evenly apart. Raise it gently, perpendicular to your face, placing the tip of your right thumb upon the tip of your nose. Waggle fingers, as you extend tongue from your mouth.
― Aimless, Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:48 (fourteen years ago)
No, I meant the party. Just got home--I want to see if I can track down some video from her speech. Whatever she said, she won't make much news tonight.
― clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:16 (fourteen years ago)
Breitbart seemed coked out of his gourd.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:20 (fourteen years ago)
whatever he's snorting is aging him remarkably fast. isn't he like 40?
― it's smdh time in America (will), Sunday, 12 February 2012 02:23 (fourteen years ago)