Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

i mean babies been getting born a long time before midwives arrived, and somehow it worked, but england national team have had a manager since day 1 just sayin

england should go with a 'selection committee for the lols like the #1 ranked cricket team. wait, cricket is still done by committee yeah? Or is it a manager now?

iirc historically the england national team didn't have a manager originally. think Winterbottom was the first, mid 50s? selected by committee of gentlemen before then or sump'n

Although Walter Winterbottom was appointed as England's first ever full time manager in 1946, the team was still picked by a committee until Alf Ramsey took over in 1963.

says Wiki

might as well bite the bullet and do it X-Factor style

suggested that already in the other thread, wd be excellent if arry ad to sing

so

there's an argument that it is a job best done by an english/british manager

right?

i dunno if there's an argument that it's best done by an english.

i think there's an argument that it probably ought to be an english, but that argument might lead to hilarious discussion about what constitutes a "developing football nation"

yeah i kinda assumed that the team has to be of one nationality so the manager does too unless you are a 'developing football country' and need outside expertise.
england going with a foreign coach always seemed to be not quite playing the game, or a comment on our position in world football.

the team has to be of one nationality

It doesn't though

trainings ran on time

lol

xxp

yeah exackly think we might qualify as tactically inept enough to be a developing nation

comment on our position in world football.

Actually...

Or what NV said

half the teams in the world seem to have their own naturalized Brazilian guy nowadays, not that it helps usually

Sardines? The monster!

WRONG! It's canning sardines that's monstrous. Fresh grilled sardines are exquisite.

i meant rather that the english media are pervasive/xenophobic enough and the english players are powerful enough that the introduction of any extra complicating factors would be disproportionately problematic

multixps - Roma's traditionally a leftist club, no? Insofar as that's a useful description of football fans. Also aiui the traditional choice of Rome's Jewish population, which wouldn't sit particularly easy with right wing ultraism (though yes, things are different in Italy)

i meant rather that the english media are pervasive/xenophobic enough and the english players are powerful enough that the introduction of any extra complicating factors would be disproportionately problematic

this is a decent argument. remember when capello took the job and we thought he'd put those surly prima donnas in their place? that went well.

redknapp as boss takes out player power- he's v good with cuntish talent- and media, to a large extent - they're in his pocket- and he's english and he's not moronic tactically/selection-wise and he's experienced. he'll keep it simple and positive and that'll keep the fans happy- even when results go against you it'll be swashbuckling ave-a-go stuff.

tell me what other boxes need ticking, tbh, or who else will tick em

when results go against us it won't be "oh swashbuckling expressionism" it will be "found out at this level to be tactically naive(see keegan)"

don't think i've ever denied that arry could make a good fist of the england job. obviously what won't go away are systemic problems underneath. what happens once arry's finished?

also i wouldn't assume that he won't be indulgent of the usual suspects - remains to be seen imo

he's been indulgent of that type of player in the past, justified by the results for the most part.

capello was indulgent of the usual suspects without ever getting a performance from them imo

such a disspiriting mess, the england team. can't think of the last time they strung 2 or 3 coherent, convincing performances together.

early sven? maybe hoddle actually

i only consistently watch the tournaments so i'll take your word

Actually, come to think of it, Englaland could use a decent captain.

98 or 02 tournament performances were good iirc, maybe even 00 but i didn't see a lot of that one. don't have any recollection of a string of convincing performances under either capello or schteve

04 was good until Rooney got crocked

maybe 3 matches good?

well croatia away was v good, don't know what the 2 games following that were though.

2000 was keegan i think, england were terrible iirc lost to romania and portugal i think

yeah 2000 was comical, late Neville fuck-up iirc but can't remember which one

phil, gave away a penalty.

thought that was group 98 wc tbh

nah, 98 was Owen wonder goal and Beckham sending off

no that was le saux fucking up and us conceding late on after owen equalised. keegan was doing the commentary and had just said "there's only one team that will win this now" (i presume he meant england)

xp

we beat colombia in last group match then lost to Arg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419969_250175661723813_160886773986036_571051_1731275724_n.jpg

:D

Didn't we have that exact same picture on here yesterday?

such a disspiriting mess, the england team. can't think of the last time they strung 2 or 3 coherent, convincing performances together
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i only consistently watch the tournaments so i'll take your word

The last time I can remember watching any England qualifier / friendly was seeing the last ten minutes or so of McClaren's umbrella disaster, so I'm far from qualified to answer this - but I had the impression that qualification for the last WC under Capello was pretty impressive?

i dunno i surf on my phone at work, apologies

xp no, it was efficient and competent but hateful to watch for the majority of the times iirc

I'm prepared to believe you, given that England were incompetent and hateful to watch in SA, and given that I couldn't name a single one of England's group opponents under Capello apart from Croatia.

A piece on City's away form - "City’s struggles started with a 1-1 draw at Anfield on 27 November. Since that day only Wigan, QPR and Fulham have taken fewer points away from home, and all have played five games to City’s six."

Must say I hadn't noticed the pattern, and am a bit shocked by this. Big game against Villa then, who are dreadful at home iirc.

Haven't looked but would guess that their lead is pretty much the same at the top as it was on 27 Nov though.

So after tmrw LFC haven't another League game until March?

fuck international weekends

Neither we do. Six games scheduled for April though, and that's not taking into account any cup run.