Deric, I'm not attacking you for being friends with the guy or anything. But I do want to hear a couple of good reasons why it's not offensive for a white person to get dolled up in brown make-up, attempt some sort of gangsta jive accent (at least in the beginning) and run around BYU asking about Black History Month?
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
I heard that Michael Richards is really nice.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
he didn't say it wasn't offensive, wtf
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
seriously y'all are way overreacting
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
(which, from my perspective, is more a result of his high rate of production superceding his good judgment than anything else)
where 'anything else' = .....
― D-40, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
lmao crut no one is doing anything but clowning on the dude
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
that video is clearly and aggressively antiracist. dude doing the interviews is clearly and aggressively antiracist. the fact that he decided to do it in brownface may be a lot of things (insensitive, unfortunate, fucking stupid, w/e), but it doesn't necessarily make him a racist himself. intent matters.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
oh, okay
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
pplains, once again: I'm defending him. I am not defending the video. I've known other people in the improv community who would regularly go to some really questionably racist/sexist/homophobic places, and I'd be just as quick to say, "This is wholly indicative of the person I know" if one of those people had produced the video, and just as quick to register my disapproval.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what is the purpose of your hairsplitting here? its racially insensitive
― D-40, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
I think what contenderizer was trying to say is that blackface is always acceptable
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Blackface is usually kind of a bad idea.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
my fav part of blackface is always when they show the dude while it's getting done
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
my fav part of blackface
things that should not be a poll
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
i thought we'd already gone through a big discussion w/ a huge OTM nabisco post & people understood that divining who is and isn't technically 'a racist' on stuff like this is total point missing
― D-40, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
He was trying to be edgy and/or sophisticated and thinking he could get away with it because other people with sophisticated senses of humor would understand what he was doing.
― beachville, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
do you guys talk to your barbers while getting a haircut, I don't it's kind of awkward
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
I could not imagine how I would feel talking to a blackface artist if I were to get it done
I cut my own hair.
― beachville, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
However, I defer to the services of a professional when blacking up. : \
― beachville, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ a lot of you, srsly
this is really OTM: He was trying to be edgy and/or sophisticated and thinking he could get away with it because other people with sophisticated senses of humor would understand what he was doing.
the problem is that the tagline that baldly states this pops up about 10 minutes after his intended audience has hit stop and said "what a fucking racist"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
I can't wait to see Jay Leno black up and go Jaywalking.
Ooohhhh wait. You said "sophisticated."
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
what does the explanation say, i can't risk watching more of that shit at work.
― bnw, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i'd like to see someone put on blackface and then put on whiteface, some real next level shit
― omar little, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
oh shit!
― beachville, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/sub4/gorsh.jpg
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
if you just keep covering your face in alternating layers of black and white paint on your face, does it stop being racist at some point? assume you are not on acid.
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Just for the sake of perspective, I'm being more emphatic than I might otherwise in my defensiveness because Dave's one of the more aggressively decent dudes I've known. I didn't honestly expect my personal opinion of him to affect anyone's opinion of his video.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
er, no "on your face." xpost
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― D-40, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
During the filming of this video, only three people said something about me not really being blackWhich I find disturbing.Fight Ignorance with Ignorance
Which I find disturbing.
Fight Ignorance with Ignorance
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
aggressively decent
I think of myself as kind of "passively ok"
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
"Fight Ignorance with Ignorance" seems to be the name of the show/deal/whatever he's running, which if this video is anything to base it on is sub-Borat-style ambush games intended to get the interviewee to embarrass the shit out of themselves.
I don't think this is particularly well done given how he has come across to everyone itt except like two ppl as a massive racist (one of whom knows him IRL, lol)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
that's troo, but i think it is important to keep yr eye not just on what people are doing in a mechanical sense but why they're doing it and what they're trying to say. does not excuse dude's dumbass comedy video, of course.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
It's obvious what this this guy's intentions are. Mostly, though, he biffed it and made a lot of people mad. Even if he had somehow pulled off the video successfully, he was still walking around campus in blackface and no one had any context.
Sure, he drew attention to the fact that almost none of the people he spoke with called him out for being in blackface, but maybe every one of them has a friend who knows that they were just trying to be a part of this sophisticated, edgy thing and they're really very smart and etc
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol exactly
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:59 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the road to hell is paved with etc
― D-40, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
"etc" = "dumbass comedy videos"
― Alshipleyan Goalpostmover (some dude), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
white dudes trying to say something with comedy videos about racism which involve racist imagery or language seem to be more interested in the shocking lols than in saying anything (cf 'the amazing racist', if anyone remembers that piece of work...)
― omar little, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
pretty much my m.o. whenever i cop race humor on here.
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
just trying to shock some ignorance, that's all.
"Before you decide to do your edgy racial shit, go back and read some of the harsh criticism that rained down on Chapelle, Spike Lee, Whoopie & other black artists for their edgy race-related material/defence of dumbass boyfriends, and say to yourself, oh shit, and I'm a WHITE person."- Form my forthcoming book, Fellow White People, for Your Consideration
― Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
the hell is that from.
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Form my forthcoming book
aw, do I have to
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
we really need to get away from white people humor -- whitepeoplelikethis, Martin Mull, whatever.
Gives white people an excuse to laugh at themselves and then go dress up in blackface and roam the woods.
― pplains, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
what a horribly-formed "book"
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
wait what did martin mull do?
― Alshipleyan Goalpostmover (some dude), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
nevermind, i'm not really ready to feel disappionted in martin mull today
^^
― the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089277/
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link