2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

BACHMANN: America had their chance with the perfect candidate.

god this is beautiful, it is gonna be boomed from the skies on judgement day

medved is awful

but astonishingly eagle-eyed

also bird-brained

rich dad, deadbeat dad

to be totally crude and sexist, it's because Romney is halfway handsome in a plutocratic robot way, whereas Newt looks like a slimy water-headed baby.

― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, February 6, 2012 3:44 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh

Which was Bob Dole supposed to be?

Was actually wondering about W.

well he, Gore and Kerry were privileged, of course.

Joke based on the Oliver Stone film, where he and H.W. didn't have much of a relationship.

oh yeah. didn't see that one.

Worth seeing, but surprisingly tame next to JFK and Nixon. Richard Dreyfuss makes for a great Cheney. W. has some real daddy issues in it; five years from now, Stone's Mitt will mine similar territory.

I thought it was absolutely terrible. Like one of those awful HBO movies where the whole fucking thing is just bad impressions by washed up 80s actors.

Nixon is one of my favourite films ever, so I found W. very disappointing the first time. When I watched it again with lowered expectations, and at home instead of in a theatre (where some of those caricatures are shrunk down in size and not so garish), I found it generally okay.

Okay, what the hell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsR3sH_Di_Y

That's great, but how could they leave out the one true music-making genius of this campaign?

http://www.setyoufreenews.com/wp-content/themes/LondonLive/thumb.php?src=/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/0930-herman-cain-999_full_600.jpg&w=276&h=135&zc=1&q=100

Hah awesome.

Santorum explains his view on the relationship between humans, the environment, and climate change:

“If you leave it to Nature, then Nature will do what Nature does, which is boom and bust. We were put on this Earth as creatures of God to have dominion over the Earth, to use it wisely and steward it wisely, but for our benefit not for the Earth’s benefit.”

...“I for one never bought the hoax. I for one understand just from science that there are one hundred factors that influence the climate. To suggest that one minor factor of which man’s contribution is a minor factor in the minor factor is the determining ingredient in the sauce that affects the entire global warming and cooling is just absurd on its face.

"I have here in my hand a list of one hundred factors that influence the climate!"

it's hard to say that final sentence from his quote out loud without laughing

“We went into a recession in 2008. People forget why. They thought it was a housing bubble. The housing bubble was caused because of a dramatic spike in energy prices that caused the housing bubble to burst,” Santorum told the audience. “People had to pay so much money to air condition and heat their homes or pay for gasoline that they couldn’t pay their mortgage.”

Complete bullshit.

oops, forgot to link: http://coloradoindependent.com/111924/santorum-and-gingrich-dismiss-climate-change-vow-to-dismantle-the-epa

"People had to pay so much money to air condition and heat their homes or pay for gasoline that they couldn’t pay their mortgage.”

OK this is awesome-level twaddle

this is up there with Reagan claiming trees contribute to global warming

Which was Bob Dole supposed to be?

Or Dukakis, for that matter: his dad was a Harvard Med School-educated obstetrician, but I'm not sure that qualifies him as having a "privileged" background on the level of the Bushes or Romney or Kerry or Gore.

as always, it's like he's a untalented comment box troll-that-doesn-know-he's-a-troll that somehow got up to run for president.

there is a right-ish line on the current economic woes that does pin some of the blame for the collapse on rising energy costs, but the mechanism isn't "people paying for gas instead of their mortgage"

it's not just that he's talking shit, he doesn't know he's talking shit and doesn't know that he's talking shit badly.

xp

xp yo he just said that the next president will either by X or Y. he didn't say that every candidate for president will fit that model, only that every actual president has

Michael Medved: For the seventh consecutive election, the next president will either be a privileged son or a man with no relationship with his biological father.

Or maybe I'm mis-parsing it?

more likely that medved can't construct a coherent sentence

i understood it as: for the 7th consecutive election, the president of the United States will be one of the following two archetypes: a privileged son or a man with no relationship with his biological father. as we can see from the nominees, it has to be one or the other.

Ambiguous. He speaks both of elections and of presidents. If you place more stress on the elections, then it would encompass the range of choices in those elections, iow, both candidates must be considered. If you place more stress on "next president", then you need only consider the results of the elections. Because the past seven elections are mentioned first, the first reading would seem to be slightly favored over the second.

surely Dukakis was never the next president of the United States?

they probably introduced him as such at the '88 dem convention

well, they were hopeful. but wrong.

hes still MY pres

has Michael Medved ever been subjected to such jesuitical analysis?

We would hear more about the reported suicides this would induce.

xpost only in his dreams

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Torture_Inquisition.jpg/250px-Torture_Inquisition.jpg

for our benefit not for the Earth’s benefit

I can totally get behind this if I imagine I am living on a planet other than Earth. What planet does Santorum live on?

you are going to heaven as soon as you die, AREN'T YOU?

if you are, then you don't have to worry about shitting all over this temporary holding spot! yaaaaay!

Maybe this is why the moon state is a good GOP idea. No environment to screw up.

but for our benefit not for the Earth’s benefit.

It's immoral hubris to assume you know how many future generations before Judgment Day (Mark 13:32)

Genesis 1:24-28 don't necessarily imply that humanity's dominion over God's creatures means we have to be dicks about it. It says dominion over the fish. What would happen should we kill all the fish? What would the theological implication be then, except that we were particularly bad stewards of God's creation.

"Here, have a gift."

"Thanks, I really can't wait to fuck this shit up!"

"Uh, you're, uh, welcome."

I mean he's blessing all these creatures and seeing that they were good, so maybe we shouldn't be playing basketball in the same parlor as the family porcelain just because it's 'our house'.

This what happens when Catholics spend too much time w/Protestants, imo. Santorum is hardly positioning himslef as a mainstream Catholic w/that kind of thinking but then, considering his anti-fascist grandfather was a dedicated commie, perhaps expecting too much coherence from him is asking too much.

it's worth noting that the Catholic church's official stance on climate change is that we should take it seriously:

In the new pope’s first social encyclical, “Caritas in Veritate,” he proclaimed there is a “covenant” between humans and the environment, and “responsibility is a global one, for it is concerned not just with energy but with the whole of creation, which must not be bequeathed to future generations depleted of its resources.” He highlighted in particular the responsibility of wealthy developed nations to take the lead on these efforts.

Caritas (charity, being the greatest of the three virtues) is often taken quite seriously by the Church or at least given lip-service, hence the concern for the poor and down-trodden, etc...

“We went into a recession in 2008. People forget why. They thought it was a housing bubble. The housing bubble was caused because of a dramatic spike in energy prices that caused the housing bubble to burst,” Santorum told the audience. “People had to pay so much money to air condition and heat their homes or pay for gasoline that they couldn’t pay their mortgage.”

Complete bullshit.

― Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:30 (3 hours ago) Permalink

is it?

oil prices going into the stratosphere in 2007-2008 just a coincidence?

it's MOSTLY bullshit, but complete... not really. Energy prices were a reason the housing bubble popped when it did imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFqK50d2jbU

Pareene's latest wire from the kulturkampf front:

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/07/santorum_surges_as_culture_wars_heat_up/singleton/?mobile.html

All of these, most of all the last one, are perfect stories for a candidate like Rick Santorum, so long as this remains a contest to win over outraged elderly ultra-conservatives. And indeed, Santorum has launched an unfair-ish attack on Romney, accusing him of forcing Catholic hospitals to provide emergency contraception. Santorum wants the voters to know that he’s always been the candidate most dedicated to protecting women from the responsibility of having any agency whatsoever over their role in the reproductive process!

(Would it be conspiratorial to note that these divisive cultural issues began attracting a great deal of right-wing attention very soon after the release of a positive jobs report? A little bit, probably.) (Also: Remember when the Tea Party meant the GOP was going all libertarian and abandoning social issues? Ha, ha.)