just imagine if he did drink.
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/m6uF6uwZCMK699p8cmBYqw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQwNA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/18def5e09ff34c03060f6a706700b51f.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
does his flag pin have a flag pin?
― it's smdh time in America (will), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
Gets some points back for not wearing cuff links.
― pplains, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
i can't kiss a baby i'm running for president for pete's sake
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
I've never read any Matt Taibbi before - has he always been channelling Hunter S Thompson quite so blatantly? Not that I'm complaining, it's high quality stuff.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
yes always
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
He doesn't loathe Obama as much as HST loathed Humphrey; RS readers would rebel.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
matt taibbi is a horrible writer who often knows v little of what hes writing abt but i appreciate him for pointing out the obvs big picture stuff that many are too 'polite' to, like that the finainal industry is a parasite
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
jho do you think chris hitchens was a good writer y/n?
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
i always appreciate your absolutist literary verdicts
ha hitchens is p you know complicated, I had a post in his rip thread where iI m/l made my case, but in short he's imho an obvs a v accomplished stylist, not a great thinker, and is limited in his scope of expression by being an intolerable pompous ass
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i p much agreed with that post but also i don't get the accomplished stylist thing but i am probably blinded by dislike.
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
ha just read something where hes bodying someone u h8
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know if we hate anyone in common!
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
oh there was one not that long ago tryin to remember, it was v satisfying
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
the mamet book?
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
ha ok here u go http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/books/review/book-review-the-secret-knowledge-by-david-mamet.html
lolxp
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
haha oh shit am i about to become a hitchens-ite? i'm going in.
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
p easy target to tbh
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
idk, i thought Griftopia was pretty great. it could be that he screwed up a lot of what he was writing about and I'm just not educated enough to notice it but some of the chapters were pretty dense with information alongside his characteristic stone-cold bludgeonings
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
just realized who you were, lag∞n!
i can never keep track. anyway i was about to post you on the ilx milk carton thread!
― Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
ha hi! I am luna its great to be back yall
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
anyway im no taibbi scholar I just find every time im reading him he makes a lot of assertions that make me go 'o rly based on what dude' - also i can just not stand the histrionic ott style, dont like thompson either tho so yrmv
some of his stuff is better and some is lazier
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
okay that mamet piece was satisfying and, i suppose, well-written. i feel sort of deflated now.
lols at one of his points of agreement with mamet being the hypocrisy of feminists during the clinton-lewinsky scandal and also at christopher hitchens calling someone who is not christopher hitchens "pointlessly aggressive," but okay.
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
ha well yes he cannot stop being christopher hitchens
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
tho tbf I guess he has now
basically agree w/ ice tho have only read the rs articles
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
tabbai is a polemicist in the age of technocrats, if only there were a way to combine the two
http://prospect.org/article/errors-matt-taibbi http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2009/12/12/195422/blame-obama-first
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
I mean I support the existence of taibbi for mass fb-friendly goldman sachs vilifying, I think 'readability' matters, but he doesn't seem to be the guy to go to for higher-level analysis
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
krugman
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
ha yes he did come to mind
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
as yglesias points out some of taibbis views are m/l conventional ignorance, which is really too bad, cause I would love for him to rail against our disfunctional governmental structures AND bash goldman
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)
yeahh
actually I remember reading some of taibbi's book at OWS library and being annoyed at his not-really-getting-quantitative easing
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)
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ohhhh shit
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
(what is "m/l")
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
more or less
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)
more or less m/l
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)
m/l
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)
aaahh thx
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
matt taibbi is a horrible writer who often knows v little of what hes writing abt
ok waht
You can't separate style and thought but if I'm generous and ignore his at times hysterical prose I find I've learned quite a bit about credit default swaps and securitization, not to mention his work covering Congress in the mid 2000s and Russia before then.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)
lots of people write about credit default swaps and securitization and as far as pop-friendly-explanations of that stuff michael lewis is prob a better dude to go to
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)
you gotta pay for michael lewis's stuff tho
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I dont think taibbi is off tm all the time but ive seen enough fudging in his work to basically not trust him at this point
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)
Examples of mistakes? No snark, just curious.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/quantitative-easing-the-hidden-government-subsidy-for-banks-20101115
There are so many things about QE that are crazy, but there’s one thing that I’d like to point out in particular. Yes, this is a huge money-printing program with potentially disastrous inflationary consequences. And yes, the influx of all this money could easily distort markets and prices far beyond the extreme distortions we’ve already been dealing with (commodities prices shot through the roof after this latest QE round was announced).
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)
this link I posted upthread is just errors in one piece http://prospect.org/article/errors-matt-taibbi as for the stuff ive caught personally lol I dont remember
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
fwiw i have been talking shit on matt taibbi for like five years now
― max, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
there are left- and right-wing lines of criticism about finance and wall st, they aren't really compatible at a certain pt, my cursory reading is that taibbi can kind of flatter both
i do give him props for one lil moment i caught tho: being interviewed on the "alyona show" she kept bringing up some kind of total upheaval 3rd party insurgency type of response to how badly people hate wall st, and he was like "yeah don't get your hopes up about that"
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
One of the great mysteries of our time: "Anybody have a theory about why women don’t like Gingrich?"
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2012/02/02/newt_gingrich_s_woman_problem_.html
― clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)