Well, yes.
"You're so close to your son-in-law!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
Evangelical Christians have no problems with gay people who are celibate
In fact they get extra brownie points for carrying that heavy cross of homosexuality and avoiding the temptations!
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)
I think it's plausible! Or at least I think / fear it's plausible that it's true - that in 2012 the President being on the other team and black gives the GOP license to unleash a cacophony of dog whistles and smears knowing that 50% more shit will stick with a lot of the voters. And that the incumbent being a white guy would be worth 10% in the polls.
Whether the Democrats would consider this plausible is another thing, of course.
xp - "Republicans fall in line behind their candidates no matter what" has taken a hell of a kicking so far this election.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)
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when youre feeling gay its important to do things to take yr mid off it like go to the park or get out and stretch yr legs a little at a rest stop maybe splash some water on yr face in a public restroom
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
Except not is Perlstein's point. The primaries are rough, but lets see the polling after Romney locks up the nom. xp
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
yeah I've always been skeptical of this narrative, it's built on v. few historical examples
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
like, just fyi, but the backlash against Romney and whether that proverb is still true is what the article is about
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)
"Republicans fall in line behind their candidates no matter what" has taken a hell of a kicking so far this election.
There's no election for 9 months yet; all this shit is predestination thinly camouflaged by a few random church socials with ballots.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)
falling in line/not falling in line is a crude binary, every election there are differing levels of voter enthusiasm that play a part in determining the election
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
xp it seemed to be mostly about "Did you know we used to hate Catholics?", in a "I read the other book for the book report" style.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
romney fired his hotshot liberty U debate coach
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72433.html
the commentary that the rest of romney's team was 'jealous' seems pretty stupid to me
http://news.yahoo.com/romney-debate-coach-fired-being-too-good-job-184700169.html
i wonder if they just feel like the debate parts of this season are p much done
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
growing up in a southern baptist church i was definitely indoctrinated with the whole mormonism = pseudo christian cult line of thinking. but i guess 'the enemy of enemy' is especially potent when the 'enemy' is zomg liberal secularism and your new found friend (the mormon church at-large, if not yet Romney specifically) has deep pockets and growing acceptance/ political capital. it's equal parts hilarious and aggravating watching trolls like Hagee et al bed down with conservative Jews, Catholics and Mormons
― it's smdh time in America (will), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
but not Bill Keller by godhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTMmP-QQzoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9yxcbljlrc
― it's smdh time in America (will), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)
Did we miss this one? http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-odd-couple-romney-vs-gingrich-20120130
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
this was news/fresh lolz to me:In New Hampshire just a week before, Romney had tried to do the campaign-cliché thing and kiss a baby – only to have protesters shout at him, repeatedly, "Are you going to fire the baby? Are you going to fire the baby? Are you going to fire the baby?"
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
lmao
― crüt, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:20 (fourteen years ago)
Here's the baby getting the bad news. You can tell that she's wondering how she's going to put food on the table for her parents.
http://images.smh.com.au/2012/01/11/2885273/729-romney-child-420x0.jpg
― clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)
just imagine if he did drink.
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/m6uF6uwZCMK699p8cmBYqw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD02MTI7cT04NTt3PTQwNA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/18def5e09ff34c03060f6a706700b51f.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
does his flag pin have a flag pin?
― it's smdh time in America (will), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)
Gets some points back for not wearing cuff links.
― pplains, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
i can't kiss a baby i'm running for president for pete's sake
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
I've never read any Matt Taibbi before - has he always been channelling Hunter S Thompson quite so blatantly? Not that I'm complaining, it's high quality stuff.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)
yes always
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:15 (fourteen years ago)
He doesn't loathe Obama as much as HST loathed Humphrey; RS readers would rebel.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
matt taibbi is a horrible writer who often knows v little of what hes writing abt but i appreciate him for pointing out the obvs big picture stuff that many are too 'polite' to, like that the finainal industry is a parasite
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)
jho do you think chris hitchens was a good writer y/n?
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
i always appreciate your absolutist literary verdicts
ha hitchens is p you know complicated, I had a post in his rip thread where iI m/l made my case, but in short he's imho an obvs a v accomplished stylist, not a great thinker, and is limited in his scope of expression by being an intolerable pompous ass
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i p much agreed with that post but also i don't get the accomplished stylist thing but i am probably blinded by dislike.
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
ha just read something where hes bodying someone u h8
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know if we hate anyone in common!
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
oh there was one not that long ago tryin to remember, it was v satisfying
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
the mamet book?
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
ha ok here u go http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/books/review/book-review-the-secret-knowledge-by-david-mamet.html
lolxp
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
haha oh shit am i about to become a hitchens-ite? i'm going in.
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
p easy target to tbh
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
idk, i thought Griftopia was pretty great. it could be that he screwed up a lot of what he was writing about and I'm just not educated enough to notice it but some of the chapters were pretty dense with information alongside his characteristic stone-cold bludgeonings
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)
just realized who you were, lag∞n!
i can never keep track. anyway i was about to post you on the ilx milk carton thread!
― Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)
ha hi! I am luna its great to be back yall
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
anyway im no taibbi scholar I just find every time im reading him he makes a lot of assertions that make me go 'o rly based on what dude' - also i can just not stand the histrionic ott style, dont like thompson either tho so yrmv
some of his stuff is better and some is lazier
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
okay that mamet piece was satisfying and, i suppose, well-written. i feel sort of deflated now.
lols at one of his points of agreement with mamet being the hypocrisy of feminists during the clinton-lewinsky scandal and also at christopher hitchens calling someone who is not christopher hitchens "pointlessly aggressive," but okay.
― horseshoe, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
ha well yes he cannot stop being christopher hitchens
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)
tho tbf I guess he has now
basically agree w/ ice tho have only read the rs articles
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
tabbai is a polemicist in the age of technocrats, if only there were a way to combine the two
http://prospect.org/article/errors-matt-taibbi http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2009/12/12/195422/blame-obama-first
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)
I mean I support the existence of taibbi for mass fb-friendly goldman sachs vilifying, I think 'readability' matters, but he doesn't seem to be the guy to go to for higher-level analysis
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)
krugman
― iatee, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)
ha yes he did come to mind
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:14 (fourteen years ago)
as yglesias points out some of taibbis views are m/l conventional ignorance, which is really too bad, cause I would love for him to rail against our disfunctional governmental structures AND bash goldman
― lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)