Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

He may yet be dropped entirely. There's no match at the moment, so there's no team at the moment.

would have been announced with the captaincy imo

tho capello probably has mandated control of team selection so

My thoughts:

1)Torres is a shadow of his former self. He bottled it big time today when he should have scored.
2)De Gea is a fantastic shot stopper - that save right near the end was amazing - but still looks brittle
3)Evra is still good going up the wing, but seems to have forgotten how to defend
4)Ferdinand can't move any more, probably because of his back, which is a shame
5)Terry being stripped of the captaincy is A Good Thing. Capello saying it's A Bad Thing is in itself A Bad Thing. If Terry gets dropped from the England team this will also be A Good Thing, but if he doesn't it doesn't mean that the loss of the armband isn't A Good Thing.
6)I don't really give much of a fuck about England anyway, until a major tournament comes around I don't even watch them or pay any attention to the results, and I care even less about who the captain is. But I don't like John Terry.
7)That Mata goal was incredible

otm

Stan Collymore tweeting about the odd standards of Capello: it was seemingly fine to take the captaincy away from Terry for allegedly shagging his ex-team mate's ex-girlfriend, but is utterly unacceptable to take it away for 'allegedly' racially abusing an opponent (and the whole incident being caught on video).

Despite being a cunt I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT here. Innocent until proven guilty and all that - he shouldn't be getting punished before a verdict has been made. Even if that puts the FA in an awkward position, they have just officially branded dude a racist, which is not cool. They should have let Capello and EBJT sort something out (can't go while the court case hangs over his head and doesn't want to get into a Holland 96 situation based on rumour? frame it as whats best for england? idk)

[Of course I am talking by official powers. Personally I'm fucking happy the cunt is getting his comeuppance.]

they have just officially branded dude a racist

No, they haven't

Even if that puts the FA in an awkward position, they have just officially branded dude a racist, which is not cool

what they've done is said that the england captaincy won't be given to somebody under official investigation for racist abuse, tbf

Why else have they dropped him then, if not for thinking he is a racist who'll split the squad?

They've taken the captaincy away from him while the case goes on. If an allegation of racism was made against any of us in our jobs it's very likely we'd be suspended while it was investigated. It doesn't mean we've been pre-judged. (xps)

fair enough.

NBS otm. Keeping Terry as captain serves no purpose whatsovever. Not Capello's (who's an idiot for calling it a bad thing), not Terry's (who's a vile weed and a cunt tbh) and not England's purpose either.

The captaincy does have some kind of mythical power that tbh I don't really understand. It's a kind of symbolic leading-the-troops-into-battle role, which is objectively ludicrous, but if that's how the players think of it then it's nonetheless sort-of true.

I do feel this captaincy thing holds way more importance in England than say here in the Netherlands. There's hardly ever any fuss about it, not that I can remember. Here the captain usually is the most experienced player. I mean Van der Sar has been the captain for years and years. I frown upon goalies being the captain but otoh I don't think anyone else would've done more with it.

Say what you like about JT, but he really is quite suited to it - you'd like to see him charging off into no-man's-land on the first day of the Somme.

Let's not forget about the toss though xp

Ha! xp

Capello's presumably pissed cos he was the fool that reinstated him the first time

When England look rudderless and lacking in motivation, as they always tend to, he can say 'well, it wasn't my fault...the FA sacked my captain'.

I don't remember England captaincy being A Thing pre-Beckham. I mean, there might have been a regular captain (I honestly can't remember), but I don't think there was any sense of it being a role which existed outside of a match. It was only when Beckham announced he was 'resigning' the role of captain that I picked up on this idea.

who will lead the cuntish mutiny now?

Despite being a cunt I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT here

You know, I think technically this means "Although I am a cunt that I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT"

ha

Shearer being captain was definitely a thing - remember him successfully staring down the FA when he whacked Neil Lennon? Platt's captaincy I remember being important too, though not why.

ah they were captains yeah but i agree with NBS their captaincy was not a huge deal

iirc shearer threatened to retire fully

christ that second penalty is a fucking embarrassment

tbf to utd the first shout for sturridge looked good in the first half, but webb ffs

avb under pressure

dunno

i mean yeah

but like yknow

hope he gets to the end of next season

but he won't

What does the future hold for Andre Villas Boas?

tbf i am a cunt but my bad, i meant ebjt is a c

the following players - who have never officially captained England - have worn the captain's armband during the course of a match when the official captain and vice-captain have been sent off or substituted:

Robbie Fowler
Danny Mills
Emile Heskey
Phil Neville
Jamie Carragher
David James
Gary Neville
James Milner
Ashley Cole

I'd poll these but I've spent my quota on the avb one

Could reasonably imagine any of them as captain except the first three

fuckin warnock, that better turn into a serious ban

tsk tsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0McFPYTCnXI

multiple xposts
<i>Why else have they dropped him then, if not for thinking he is a racist who'll split the squad?</i>
probably felt they had to be seen to be 'doing something'.

wait what happened tim howard? studs caught in the turf?

what is this

a drum

stevie wonder

dion dublin

anaheim

completely lost here

In the last three United games I've watched (City, Arsenal, Chelsea), they've been fucking terrible at the back, just not a title-winning defence at all. They miss Vidic so badly.

Conceded

Man City - 19
Man Utd - 24
Spurs - 25
Chelsea - 29
Newcastle - 31
Arsenal - 34
Liverpool - 21

Premier League defending mostly gash in 2012

only 2 teams in the top 7 on less than a goal a game

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson criticised assistant referee Darren Cann after the 3-3 draw with Chelsea.

Ferguson claimed Cann missed a foul by Chelsea debutant Gary Cahill on Danny Welbeck and is happy to award penalties against United but not for them.

"They should have had a man sent off in the first half," said Ferguson.

"That linesman (gave) a penalty against us from 40 yards away last year against Liverpool - and he can't see that?"

Ferguson accepted that Cahill's challenge on Welbeck in the 10th minute was outside the penalty area, but thought the Blues centre-back should have been dismissed for denying his striker a goalscoring opportunity.

He said: "I don't blame (referee) Howard Webb. He needed help in that situation and he didn't get it.

"That assistant referee, who's all too happy to flag at Old Trafford for penalty kicks, didn't give them."

and is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for themand is happy to award penalties against United but not for them

Rooney (pen) 58′, (pen) 69′

how much fucking more does he want?

ach don't mind the cunt

Can't the papers just let him talk and not report what he says, please just for once? Take him into a room, let him rant, make insinuations, play mind games, all that cal for an hour or even a whole afternoon, and nobody ever finds out about it. All I ask. The world would be a marginally better place.

can't the FA just apply the rules to him?

11h Wayne Rooney
@WayneRooney
Trying to watch super bowl final. How do they call this football. Like watching paint dry. Looking forward to adverts and music.

Never did I dare dream I would ever utter these words, but here goes *braces self*: Rooney otm.

Nah. NFL is cool as long as you watch on delay and ff to each separate down past the huddle, timeouts, etc

Fergie otm

Rooney lacks attention span to follow technical game shocker

I've got a mate who's recently made a big thing out of abandoning football because of the diving/defensive play/boorishness. He reckons rugby's the thing for its chivalry, but NFL is best of all precisely because of the huddle/timeouts and general razzmatazz that goes with it. It offers so much more to the supporter.

I dunno who he thinks he's fooling tbh.

i love NFL but am always a bit o_O about guys who like it but not their native sports.

also the chivalrous rugby bullshit never fails to raise a "oh fuck off"