Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

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Welbeck had to change direction to find Ivanovic's foot to fall over.

disappointed Utd didn't win that in the end

howard webb. what a bag of shit

couldn't even win the game for united. needs to improve

He was all over the place tbf. Not just in Utd's favour

exactly, needs to improve!

what's the point of him refereeing if it doesn't result in united win?

fantastic goals from cisse and mata today. cisse's has gotta be up there with goal of the season.

Never in doubt.

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capello tells italian tv that terry shouldn't have been dropped as captaion

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So now what? Why did the FA cut him out of the decision process?

p sure the fa could only countenance him being stripped of the captaincy and so just bypassed capello. don't see this statement making any difference.

I thought we already knew that?

(Not specifically the Italian TV bit, but the fact that Capello was dead against it)

Maybe he'll quit in protest?

John Barnes was saying on 5Live this morning (i think, I was half asleep) that Terry should either have kept the captaincy or been kicked out of the squad entirely. That this mid-point punishment is a joke. Reasonable point IMO.

Yes, but that Capello is publicly saying so is the thing surely?

john barnes 100%

either 'innocent til proven guilty' and ride out the public scorn (if it comes) or drop him entirely

He may yet be dropped entirely. There's no match at the moment, so there's no team at the moment.

would have been announced with the captaincy imo

tho capello probably has mandated control of team selection so

My thoughts:

1)Torres is a shadow of his former self. He bottled it big time today when he should have scored.
2)De Gea is a fantastic shot stopper - that save right near the end was amazing - but still looks brittle
3)Evra is still good going up the wing, but seems to have forgotten how to defend
4)Ferdinand can't move any more, probably because of his back, which is a shame
5)Terry being stripped of the captaincy is A Good Thing. Capello saying it's A Bad Thing is in itself A Bad Thing. If Terry gets dropped from the England team this will also be A Good Thing, but if he doesn't it doesn't mean that the loss of the armband isn't A Good Thing.
6)I don't really give much of a fuck about England anyway, until a major tournament comes around I don't even watch them or pay any attention to the results, and I care even less about who the captain is. But I don't like John Terry.
7)That Mata goal was incredible

otm

Stan Collymore tweeting about the odd standards of Capello: it was seemingly fine to take the captaincy away from Terry for allegedly shagging his ex-team mate's ex-girlfriend, but is utterly unacceptable to take it away for 'allegedly' racially abusing an opponent (and the whole incident being caught on video).

Despite being a cunt I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT here. Innocent until proven guilty and all that - he shouldn't be getting punished before a verdict has been made. Even if that puts the FA in an awkward position, they have just officially branded dude a racist, which is not cool. They should have let Capello and EBJT sort something out (can't go while the court case hangs over his head and doesn't want to get into a Holland 96 situation based on rumour? frame it as whats best for england? idk)

[Of course I am talking by official powers. Personally I'm fucking happy the cunt is getting his comeuppance.]

they have just officially branded dude a racist

No, they haven't

Even if that puts the FA in an awkward position, they have just officially branded dude a racist, which is not cool

what they've done is said that the england captaincy won't be given to somebody under official investigation for racist abuse, tbf

Why else have they dropped him then, if not for thinking he is a racist who'll split the squad?

They've taken the captaincy away from him while the case goes on. If an allegation of racism was made against any of us in our jobs it's very likely we'd be suspended while it was investigated. It doesn't mean we've been pre-judged. (xps)

fair enough.

NBS otm. Keeping Terry as captain serves no purpose whatsovever. Not Capello's (who's an idiot for calling it a bad thing), not Terry's (who's a vile weed and a cunt tbh) and not England's purpose either.

The captaincy does have some kind of mythical power that tbh I don't really understand. It's a kind of symbolic leading-the-troops-into-battle role, which is objectively ludicrous, but if that's how the players think of it then it's nonetheless sort-of true.

I do feel this captaincy thing holds way more importance in England than say here in the Netherlands. There's hardly ever any fuss about it, not that I can remember. Here the captain usually is the most experienced player. I mean Van der Sar has been the captain for years and years. I frown upon goalies being the captain but otoh I don't think anyone else would've done more with it.

Say what you like about JT, but he really is quite suited to it - you'd like to see him charging off into no-man's-land on the first day of the Somme.

Let's not forget about the toss though xp

Ha! xp

Capello's presumably pissed cos he was the fool that reinstated him the first time

When England look rudderless and lacking in motivation, as they always tend to, he can say 'well, it wasn't my fault...the FA sacked my captain'.

I don't remember England captaincy being A Thing pre-Beckham. I mean, there might have been a regular captain (I honestly can't remember), but I don't think there was any sense of it being a role which existed outside of a match. It was only when Beckham announced he was 'resigning' the role of captain that I picked up on this idea.

who will lead the cuntish mutiny now?

Despite being a cunt I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT here

You know, I think technically this means "Although I am a cunt that I hate, I feel sorry for EBJT"

ha

Shearer being captain was definitely a thing - remember him successfully staring down the FA when he whacked Neil Lennon? Platt's captaincy I remember being important too, though not why.

ah they were captains yeah but i agree with NBS their captaincy was not a huge deal

iirc shearer threatened to retire fully

christ that second penalty is a fucking embarrassment

tbf to utd the first shout for sturridge looked good in the first half, but webb ffs

avb under pressure

dunno

i mean yeah

but like yknow

hope he gets to the end of next season

but he won't

What does the future hold for Andre Villas Boas?

tbf i am a cunt but my bad, i meant ebjt is a c

the following players - who have never officially captained England - have worn the captain's armband during the course of a match when the official captain and vice-captain have been sent off or substituted:

Robbie Fowler
Danny Mills
Emile Heskey
Phil Neville
Jamie Carragher
David James
Gary Neville
James Milner
Ashley Cole

I'd poll these but I've spent my quota on the avb one

Could reasonably imagine any of them as captain except the first three

fuckin warnock, that better turn into a serious ban