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Ciderhouse Rules was all about abortion, but I think it focused more on the horrible consequences of illegal abortions than anything else.

Yes. She could ride a motorcycle and then get head from Vincent Gallo.

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I appreciated that there was an abortion in Six Feet Under that was treated sort of matter-of-factly.

http://www.imdb.com/keyword/abortion/

There's a monolgue in Adam Rapp's excellent play Blackbird (soon to be a major motion picture -- two people in a room). It's the one time I've actually plugged my ears during a play in the way I might cover my eyes at a movie.

JJL definitely gets a shmasmortion. Judge Reinhold picks her up afterward, because even though she didn't tell him, he's a good brother.

He's also a close talker.

He has a pet turtle.

And a weed whacker.

good to know xp. i have a horrible memory for movies and suddenly couldn't think of any, only of the smashorsion moment in knocked up.

my parents called yesterday and had just seen tsotsi, though, and i remembered it REALLY WELL, in detail, even though i saw it over a year ago. it's the really powerful disturbing shit that sticks with me, and i forget everything else.

Eric, why did you plug your ears?

For the same reason I'd cover my eyes to avoid seeing some graphic and upsetting moment in a movie.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/cultureshock/flashpoints/theater/images/clockwork_big.jpg

I had a dream last night that I entered a crossword puzzle competition. Barack Obama had decided to compete as well. I went up to him at one point and was about to say, "Hey, remember me from the fundraiser last month?" -- but then realized that I couldn't be sure if we were in the present or the past. So I said, "Hey, what's the date today?" And he said, "June [something-or-other] 2007." I said, "You know, on January 1, 2008, you're going to be leading the polls in Iowa." He smiled weakly and said, "This is why I don't listen to what people tell me."

I understand Eric, but what were they talking about in the movie? Schmashmortion?

In the play, you mean?

Oh, yeah, I didn't meantion that part, but that's what the monologue is about.

And, I mean, I've seen 1,000 plays, but that's the only time I've done that.

Now I'm curious as well. Was it really graphic, or... what?

Yeh, that's what I'm getting at. What was the monologue about?

Well, yeah, from what I heard of it it's one character talking about an abortion she had. The play (described here) is pretty rough in general, but really good. Still, a lot of groping and incontinence onstage.

And shooting up, etc.

sounds like a lousy weekend

Incontinence? Like verbal incontinence, or people actually peeing themselves?

Maybe that's the play I should take my parents to see when they visit at the end of the month...

Would that it were only peeing.

(They're junkies, remember.)

Citizen Ruth is fab, cuz it mocks doctrinaire pro-choicers and right-to-life fundies with equal fervor.

What is a "donctrinaire pro-choicer"? I am wondering if that is what I am.

Pretend I can spell, thanks.

I would say, in the context of the movie, it helps to be a strident lesbian activist who bays at the moon.

I'm wondering the same. I'm having trouble coming up with much to mock in a pro-choicer, whatever modifier is applied. It would be like mocking an anti-child molester.

Unless it's OK to mock those who oppose child molestation for being raving lunatics who bay at the moon. Then it would make sense.

Dan M@rt|n: which is worse, a strident lesbian or a Stridex™ lesbian?
jesse k3hr: pussy juice prevents acne

ok you two

for the record, I am mostly anti-child-molestation, but man... sometimes those anti-molesters just carry it too far.

I SWEAR, EVERY DAY IT GETS HARDER TO LURE THE KIDS INTO THE VAN. Sheesh.

posts very much in character?
o_O posts?

you be the judge

Andy Breckman understands.

I'm mostly in favor of abortion in special cases (up to 40 years after birth).

for the record, I am mostly anti-child-molestation, but man... sometimes those anti-molesters just carry it too far.

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Precisely.

That mostly lame Bill Hader guy from SNL has a bigger laugh on the Knocked Up commentary than anything in the film -- in character as Vincent Price, he's asked his views on abortion. "I'm against it, but I like to watch if it's going on."

Gem from lunch:

coworker - So, (husband) and I took the kids to Starving Rock over the holidays.
me - Oh really?? Did you get lots of hiking in?
coworker - I don't give a FUCK about nature!!! I'm all about luxury. My mom raised a 5 star girl.

(So apparently there are resorts at this park so you don't have to go outside at all. Also, I must not be a 5 star girl)

(Make that Starved Rock)

Carrying it too far in either case would mean harming people only indirectly involved in an act (abortion, child molestation). Burning down a child molester's family's house would be going far, as would burning down a church that endorsed a anti-abortion candidate. These are fake examples, but still.

Jesse, you do understand that it's possible to be in favor of legal abortion rights and yet think a fetus is something more than a goldfish, right?

S's coworkers once again proving why they won't survive the eventual downfall of society.

I have an idea! Let's argue about abortion!

Morbs, you weren't really making that point. You were suggesting that "fervent lesbians" (wtf??) are an example of the absurdity of the pro-choicers.

Plus, what one thinks of a fetus should have no bearing on a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. If you believe in the right to choose, then what does it matter what what you think about what a fetus is?

whatever you do, do not GIS "abortion." Safe search be damned. Just don't do it.