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^for god's sake if nothing else think of the potential lols to be had there
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I still don't like the system for same reasons as before but this seems like a small improvement. The magic number still ignores way too many factors like when the post was made, how many posts has the person made, were they already banned because of that post, what percentage of users does this represent, are the voters even contributors to the board, and on and on.

they didn't really help me find music to listen to so I don't really care in the end maybe, probably

i can think of at least one sb'd person whose taste in music you rated p highly at one point but i think its impossible to argue that sb hasnt made the board, as a whole, less entertaining even if u dont care abt specific sbd posters themselves

Whiney doesn't turn anybody onto shit gr80 come on, his whole deal is "this sucks" all day every day to eternity

whiney turned me on to the hauschka album and weve def had productive and interesting conversations abt music

well 'productive' but yknow

lamp who is this person

basically if jaxon (who doesn't even post now but whose threads in the archive have been p productive) or scott or a bunch of other people were sb'd I would be sad sad prob, but like even then, I don't know, you're probably right, you're definitely right about the entertaining part though

Whiney doesn't turn anybody onto shit gr80 come on, his whole deal is "this sucks" all day every day to eternity

― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:09 (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

such a bs post

oh i was scrolling too fast and i thought that your post was aerosmith's. i dont really know what kind of music u like tbh - metal? classic funk? - but i guess that doesnt matter i mean i think annoying but passionate posters make ilm better cuz theyre willing to really engage even if theyre stupid or bullying or w/e but i mean most ilm posters have p terrible taste i guess sure

i thought i saw jaxon posting recently??

Whiney doesn't turn anybody onto shit gr80 come on, his whole deal is "this sucks" all day every day to eternity

― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:09 (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

such a bs post

ya srsly

lamp while I have you on the line was there a poster named ledge who was exactly like you or were you ledge or something because I swear there used to be two of you

two lamps

theres a british poster w/the user name 'ledge' who well predates my posting here but we arent v similar he posts readable posts w/caps and punctuation and is one of those v literate london ilb posters who always seems to be reading something impressive whereas a like mangas and books abt elves

I say fuck that; flag post on any motherfucker who can't be, bare minimum, respectful to the people he's arguing with. it's not even that hard. I have permanent beef with deej but he knows I respect him and even when I'm needling him I try to stay aware that he's a person and it's gotta suck to have somebody in your community who pretty much always thinks you're dead wrong.

ime your tone is consistently patronizing when you argue with people and that is a lot worse than whineyesque rude hyperbole

now I know and will try not to forget

ありがとうございます, may yours ears be as pointy as the tips of your shoes.

xp

flopson!

i've had it buzza--i've HAD it

i got your back ; )

hahaha :D

fwiw uh oh im having a fantasy i have been reading albert cossery lately and i think it was because one of your ilb posts so its not all elves all the time

lamp i never read books abt elves, where should i start?

hey i'mjust glad we could all have another great sb conversation, wish we could all just vibe in peace but some ppl love ilx death penalties it's too bad, frogbs i miss u (i miss u)

well, so if this change is all semantics and cosmetics, then i'm kinda bummed because "flag post" is much less hilarious than "suggest ban". where from the suggesteban buttezes of tomorrow?

plus it's so innocuous-sounding. flag post? don't mind if i do! much easier to casually "flag" a gnatlike opinion than to straight-up recommend that the dickhole poster behind it be BAND, right?

everything should always be the way it was, imo

for real tho this whole mischaracterization of whiney as a worhtless, pervasively negative bully/ringleader of a cast of abusive posters (i) is hella outdated (ii) doesnt acknowledge that whiney's posts are almost exclusively just jokes. a lot of people like those jokes and find them hilarious, at least 51 people find them obnoxious and distasteful and think they shit up threads with dumb ott controversial opinions. there's no significant bullying anywhere on ilx anymore. i doubt more than a handful of ppl to have ever sb'd since like, 2009, have done so because they felt they were being personally attacked, or sb'd as a response to seeing someone else attacked. that shit doesn't fly anymore afaict

plus it's so innocuous-sounding. flag post? don't mind if i do! much easier to casually "flag" a gnatlike opinion than to straight-up recommend that the dickhole poster behind it be BAND, right?

really? i'm way more reluctant to flag than to sb--with flag i feel like a mod is actually going to have to, like, put on his glasses "...really? that's what you flagged me for?"

mods like to be flagged though. it's a gesture of deference to their authority and wisdom. hey, like, i could use your help here in the understanding of this thing here, if you don't mind...

yeah contenderizer otm f mods!

thread picked up overnight

theres a british poster w/the user name 'ledge' who well predates my posting here but we arent v similar he posts readable posts w/caps and punctuation and is one of those v literate london ilb posters who always seems to be reading something impressive whereas a like mangas and books abt elves

fame at last

Thank you for your most recent post there, readable with caps and punctuation and tha.

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really? i'm way more reluctant to flag than to sb--with flag i feel like a mod is actually going to have to, like, put on his glasses "...really? that's what you flagged me for?"

Agreed. I feel like my sb habits became increasingly conservative over the years to the point where I would rarely click the button. But in some circumstances, I know I have clicked sb on non-sb worthy (like, minorly confrontational) posts because my negative feelings about the poster were amplified by the perceived strength of past wrongs.

Like for example, Morbs might say something that pisses me off in a thread (which is his thing, I understand) for some reason and I'll remember that time he called me "fascist" once and KA-BLAM...Suggest Ban.

IIRC from suggbann discussions previous, the official mod policy was that it didn't matter which individual post was sb'd (aside from "Renegade" Remy Bean, apparently). It would count in the total against the poster.

I will not be clicking the Flag Post button as cavalierly, knowing that mods will be paying attention.

I for one would sincerely hope this will bring K4te back to the forum

seem to recall posting her name isn't likely to help with that

Sigh I know but all these nicknames. Fothering Thomas then

I guess where I get really pro-SB is like the people who get repeatedly SB'd are old enough to know better. At their age, they should not need somebody to say "yo, man, check it out, you're really bugging a lot of people & carrying out battles & vendettas long after there's any conceivable value, even entertainment value, in doing so." these are dudes in their thirties. they're not wild kids who just need people to understand their energy levels. they're grownups who think if they can find somebody to be uncool to, that'll be great for them, for whatever reason. I say fuck that; flag post on any motherfucker who can't be, bare minimum, respectful to the people he's arguing with. it's not even that hard. I have permanent beef with deej but he knows I respect him and even when I'm needling him I try to stay aware that he's a person and it's gotta suck to have somebody in your community who pretty much always thinks you're dead wrong. this sort of shit has gotta be worse when it's not just asshole old dude aero but several guys in their thirties who think they're teenagers pokin' & pokin' & pokin'. recourse must be made available against that shit imo.

this is totally otm but let's be real it describes whiney and whiney only

flagging aero's posts for otmness

Lamp for fantasy recommendations, ledge for crossword puzzles iirc

uh oh I'm recommending a fantasy

^

actually when was the last time ANYBODY besides whiney or frogbs hit 51? i mean if this policy only really effects 2 people anymore we might as well just say so

let's make a list!

I don't have any hard data to back me up on this, but it's my feeling that the fear of a SB / FP plays part of the role in keeping people acting decently in stressy/het-up situs.

FEAR OF A BAN PLANET

it's my feeling that the fear of a SB / FP plays part of the role in keeping people acting decently in stressy/het-up situs.

you don't think some people who got sugg-bans (without necessarily getting 51'd) might enjoy the idea of being a controversial poster? that there was never a bragging element to post-yr-sb-number ?

I was braggin about how nice everyone must have thought I was since they didn't sb me too much. It was a holier-than-thou thing I admit it.

good point tho can we get a thread title change there pls

if people are in a stressy/het-up situation and their immediate reaction to that is to be needlessly offensive or otherwise make sb/fp-worthy posts, would they really have the self-control/nous to think 'oh no but i might be sb'd/fp'd so i shouldn't say that'? I feel like, when your difficult behaviour is brought up, the initial human reaction is much more to go 'fuck these people who can't handle me' and much less to go 'maybe i should tone down my carefully-crafted internet persona'.

i guess i felt like sb was more there for the people who got a month without [controversial poster] around, and less for [controversial poster] to learn any ~important life lessons~ about interacting with other people without pissing them off.

anyway, fp seems like an interesting idea, let's see what happens.

i symapthize w/ aerosmiths argument but it seems pretty clear that in practice SB wasnt an "anti-bullying" system so much as a "anti-annoying" system which seems like a stupid way to run a message board

ps i never read ILM

big ps there

xp: yeah, it seems like that's the way it really worked out.