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saluted your shorts

formed a silent circle of american college christians around that post you made

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and, as sincerely as possible, thanks stet for the great work.

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This, and this. Still would like to know about the rules, but thanks Stet

joined the boy scouts to learn how to fold your post because you just got flagged

f.l.a.g.

wind moves everything around me

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and, as sincerely as possible, thanks stet for the great work.

― pplains, dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This, and this. Still would like to know about the rules, but thanks Stet

― future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (2 minutes ago)

^^flagging these posts as awesome and not-to-be-missed

lol at "as sincerely as possible"

Serious question: Does Flag Posts have anything to do with why bookmarking is muffed up for me now? Now when I click "Bookmark" on a post, I am redirected to uppermost post displayed. This was not the case about 30 minutes ago.

I'm still ready to hear what the new policies are. Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each? Is 51 even a number anymore? Are the 30 day temp bans still the same?

tbh I unfairly didn't give the mods any real warning abt this change after it was discussed on sandbox, so don't have any real policy changes yet. That said, I feel that 51 individual users saying "take action about this user" is still a strong signal, and is about the right level for action to be taken.

We can potentially focus thinking more on posts now than before -- "51 users objected to these specific posts by this user" -- and I'm thinking about tools that would help with that. We can certainly start weeding out any spurious or baffling flagged posts.

This would lead to maybe taking different actions, like (off the top of my head) if all the posts are on one specific board, why not just ban the user from that board as a first step?

If a user does get a site ban after a load of users flag their posts, I think that should still stay at a month off for the first offence, getting progressively steeper until potentially permaban. But again, need to discuss this a bit.

tldr: if 51 users have flagged your posts in the past six months, and they strike us as reasonable complaints, I'd expect a ban of some kind.

Je55e: yeah, this is another change -- thinking is that it takes you right back to the list of bookmarks so you can choose another one to read.

This the way Suggest Ban should've worked in the first place (as me and many others tried to say back then)

<3 you always tuomas, but you best believe i flagged the shit out of this post

xp fair enough stet- what's different apart from the name of the link tho?

On the mod side, I don't think anything has changed.

Do you have to have the same post KerPowed 51 times? 51 posts once each?

No and no. As before, if a poster, not a post, gets flagged 50 times within 6 months, the rule of thumb has been to give them a one month ban on the 51st.

xps

Oh.... I dunno about anyone else, but that's not how I use bookmarks. I can take this topic to another thread tho. xps

yeah i prefer the old bookmarks tbh

needless to say you're a hero for getting rid of SB

I didn't Sb Whiney this time, so it came as a surprise to me that he got 51ed because I hadn't seen anything uncool written by him.

Oh shit. Will the death of the suggbann mean the death of Dave Cool?

flagged a bunch of posts itt. let me know how that works out exactly, policy seems pretty vague so far

― am0n, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:46 PM (12 minutes ago)

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Confirming this will flag the post for the attention of the moderators.

Just wondering what about these posts you think needs moderator attention.

if mods ever do something dumb i'm gonna post "mods suck" or "suck it mods" or something and the flag my own post so i know they got the message

We can certainly start weeding out any spurious or baffling flagged posts.

This would lead to maybe taking different actions, like (off the top of my head) if all the posts are on one specific board, why not just ban the user from that board as a first step?

amazing that its taken three and a half years but thank you

only the words have changed

it's kinda like the end of Prohibition

lol gr80 otm

quick qn: if i sb'd somebody w/in the last 60 days will my clicking 'flag post' contribute towards a possible temp ban?

did all SB's get wiped out today?

That's EXACTLY how I use bookmarks tho - thank you Stet. xp

Je55e: stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

what's different apart from the name of the link tho?
Have changed some of the mod tools, but yea, this is semantic -- but in ways that I'm much happier about and I think are important. I'd prefer people to be going "look at this post" than "look at this poster".

(Which is really how I've thought of it for a long time, but the wording didn't reflect that.)

statesmanlike solution imo

Just wondering what about these posts you think needs moderator attention.

― Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:01 PM

do u intend to ask that question to every person that flags a post

All the former SBs have been being recorded against actual posts for some time. Might be we need to scan over them, but haven't wiped them out wholesale. xxp

xp well, there was uproar when the moderators were unquestioningly applying the 51, can't have it both ways

The name change is enough imo, there's no longer a negative vibe hanging off every single post.

am0n: no, I just didn't see anything objectionable in that batch

test

ya i know, i was just elaborating on my question upthread about 'flag post' abuse

i suppose it can't really be abused any more than sb could huh

I think the spirit of the rules are pretty clear. Don't get down and dirty with personal attacks. Don't indulge your meanest instincts here. Don't do stuff that is socially taboo, like spouting racist nonsense, or DOS attacks. We users get to call attention to posts we think violate these rules and the mods get to decide how to handle it.

Works for me.

very cool new system

See, I have a habit of bookmarking a thread as I'm scrolling down it. If I'm reading through a hundred posts or whatever, I won't have to re-read them all to find my place again. I'll obviously just have to adjust, but I feel like the new style impedes on the utility a little.

Good job on the suggbans though, stet. It's time for a new era.

xp: but what's gonna happen to you dave?

dave cool editor of the rolling stones likes it

beachville otm

See, I have a habit of bookmarking a thread as I'm scrolling down it.

I didn't realise that I do this way more than I thought, too. Turns out I also have been clicking bookmark on the last post before reading it, for some reason. Going to give this one a few days and see what people think. I'm already finding it a bit more useful, tbh.

I agree with Aimless, the spirit of the rules are clear and otm. But I do encourage the mods to sort out the rules into details rather quickly; there are a lot of "we can potentially", "maybes", "I think" and "still need to discuss this" in Stet's reply.

I think dave cool will start a new Twitter feed to rate the flagged posts out of 10.

Oh and please keep the bookmark-jump-to-top thing. Why because it's awesome

i like that the 'flag post' warning text is a gentle but authoritative blue, not alarm the-airlock-is-opening red

thx for all the work on this, stet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP4jerUBr7Q

Any concerns about over-flagging being a PITA for you mod folk?

lol

http://i.imgur.com/8Aumh.jpg

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