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You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

It is food you eat with chopsticks don't you see?

mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

lol DC Chinatown

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

Home of the Verizon Center! And Fuddrucker'a! And, apparently, one apartment building filled with elderly immigrant Chinese.

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

I would describe that Ming's signage design as more as stereotypical than racist, in that it doesn't carry any genuinely negative imagery. Ain't nothing inferior about chopsticks. They're used daily by a couple billion people. The typeface is also ugly as sin and stereotyped, but it is based on the look of calligraphic brushstrokes, which seems legit, although very poorly done.

You seem to associate these things with truly racist images, like exaggerated "r" for "l" accents, comical slant-eyes and buck teeth, but taken as themselves they just look like crappy design to me, not racism.

Aimless, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

I could care less

― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Friday, January 27, 2012 7:17 PM

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am0n, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

aimless otm

xp am0n otm

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

btw that type face even has a name, 'Chinesey' or 'chop suey' or something.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i make up imaginary american chinese restaurants by mixing & matching common name elements, like

lucky garden
panda moon
fortune house
bamboo palace

so - is that racist?

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Usually the English name isn't even a translation of the Chinese right next to it.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

Like it'll say 'Fortune Garden' in English but the Chinese is actually 'Pork Restaurant' or something.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

fail to see how that Chinese ad is any different from the Mexican ones with mariachis etc., I dont see Chinese people having a problem with it outside of maybe "come on, this isn't what our restaurant ads look like"

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

have you asked your chinese friends their opinion?

mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

I don't have any Chinese friends.

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:32 (fourteen years ago)

oic

mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

I used to work with an impro troupe that did a show in the country, where they got into a load of dreadful stereotypes with varying responses:

Italian accent with-a words-a ending like-a this-a and godfather hand gestures – uproarious laughter

French 'haw' noises and cheap gags about bread sticks – uproarious laughter

Chinese 'velly solly' gags – DEAD SILENCE

It seems to be down to whether the culture is *perceived* as a minority; to view e.g. the Chinese as a 'minority' in this day and age is condescending and absurd imo. Sorry if this ends up as another giant clusterfuck but I seriously dgi.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

the chinese are indeed a minority in washington, dc

mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry if this ends up as another giant clusterfuck

lol no you aren't

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

French and Italian people are white, traditionally

Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

"there are a billion people in your country, why are you mad that I called you 'slanty-eyes'"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

Personally, I think it has something to do with the fact that I have never once seen an Asian person act in this way

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:43 (fourteen years ago)

how many asian people have you met tho

iatee, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

True, but I've never seen a French person wear a stripy jumper, clutch a wicker basket full of baguettes etc xp

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

where I live there's a huge Hmong population and the only stereotype about them that really rang true is that they're all really, really good at pool

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:46 (fourteen years ago)

"there are a billion people in your country, why are you mad that I called you 'slanty-eyes'"

well obviously that's a racist thing

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

True, but I've never seen a French person wear a stripy jumper, clutch a wicker basket full of baguettes etc xp

well I wouldn't laugh at this either but the image itself is kind of funny

frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

aimless otm, re: stereotypical vs. racist

still, even stereotypes that don't rely on "genuinely negative imagery" can be effectively racist when they reflect an overall tendency to reduce perceived "others" to cartoonish types

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

the Chinese as a 'minority' in this day and age is condescending and absurd imo

omg lol

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:56 (fourteen years ago)

So, is this where I should mention the all white production of Hairspray being performed in the Dallas suburb of Plano, TX?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

wait waht

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:58 (fourteen years ago)

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2012/01/at_plano_childrens_theatre_the.php

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

wtf

Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

It just came across my twitter feet and I actually did a face palm. Now I have to clean my glasses.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

EZ has Twitter feet.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

it explains my horrible typing.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

haha i did not know enough (ie, anything) about 'hairspray' to recognize the problem

mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

how they weren't going to bow to "political correctness"

This tells you all you really need to know, tbh.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:04 (fourteen years ago)

it's a pretty huge problem

in some ways, it's more problematic than doing an all-white "Porgy and Bess"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

omg lol

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

Rodenbaugh said they might do To Kill a Mockingbird with an all-white cast or Othello or The Wiz (three shows I mentioned to him that feature African-Americans either in prominent roles or as a majority of the cast).

!!!!!

spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

an all-white "The Wiz"

let's just ponder that for a while

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

incisive! daring! innovative!

Aimless, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

He was probably just trolling the reporter at that point, or some twisted one-upsmanship. "Oh, we'll do that too!". "And that one!".

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:13 (fourteen years ago)

Raisin in the Sun!

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:15 (fourteen years ago)

"might get together with a certain mayor and do a version of West Side Story where we just eat tacos for dinner"

spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:16 (fourteen years ago)

someone inform The Corner of this brave display

mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

There was a good episode of Strangers With Candy where they do an all-white A Raisin in the Sun, and the school's black students are trees on the set.

polyphonic, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

but guys guys is it racist?

teaky frigger (darraghmac), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

Golden Raisin In The Sun

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

True, but I've never seen a French person wear a stripy jumper, clutch a wicker basket full of baguettes etc xp

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You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:33 (fourteen years ago)


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