Ah no I totally get that, but I hadn't clicked through to the article, so when someone posted the Sydney Confidential image, I though they were saying the picture was racist! Lots of "Is it the weird C-crossed-with-quote-marks?"
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 29 January 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)
lol did this moran transpose "off-color" with "off-the cuff"?
http://i.imgur.com/em7p8.png
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 29 January 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
"off-collar" what
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 29 January 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
he could probably care less.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 29 January 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)
off-collar, the stain remover
― buzza, Sunday, 29 January 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
"off-color" probably not a wise way to characterize a racially offensive remark, but this guy has already proven that his aptitude for putting his foot in his mouth so
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
it was a perfectly turtleneck apology
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)
I'm kinda feeling very minorly sorry for this guy now tbh, his remarks were stupid but he just looked like he was dumbly flailing and knew it. Which leads one to wonder how he ended up in a post such as mayor, but still.
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:32 (fourteen years ago)
dont feel sorry for him trayce
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Monday, 30 January 2012 00:56 (fourteen years ago)
Oh for reals i know its a wasted thought, I'm just soft.
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Monday, 30 January 2012 01:57 (fourteen years ago)
I'm working on a project that falls under Washington DC's Chinatown zoning overlay and has a bunch of signage requirements that go with it. This is an example from the design guidelines of what the city thinks is a good and appropriate sign in 2012:
http://i43.tinypic.com/vctboz.jpg
― spiced with KNOWING THAT YOU'VE PAID YOUR BILLS (I DIED), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:00 (fourteen years ago)
(insert comical gong sound)
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:01 (fourteen years ago)
It is food you eat with chopsticks don't you see?
― mh, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
lol DC Chinatown
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (fourteen years ago)
Home of the Verizon Center! And Fuddrucker'a! And, apparently, one apartment building filled with elderly immigrant Chinese.
I would describe that Ming's signage design as more as stereotypical than racist, in that it doesn't carry any genuinely negative imagery. Ain't nothing inferior about chopsticks. They're used daily by a couple billion people. The typeface is also ugly as sin and stereotyped, but it is based on the look of calligraphic brushstrokes, which seems legit, although very poorly done.
You seem to associate these things with truly racist images, like exaggerated "r" for "l" accents, comical slant-eyes and buck teeth, but taken as themselves they just look like crappy design to me, not racism.
― Aimless, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)
I could care less
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Friday, January 27, 2012 7:17 PM
http://www.incompetech.com/Images/caring.png
― am0n, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
aimless otm
xp am0n otm
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
btw that type face even has a name, 'Chinesey' or 'chop suey' or something.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)
sometimes i make up imaginary american chinese restaurants by mixing & matching common name elements, like
lucky gardenpanda moonfortune housebamboo palace
so - is that racist?
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)
Usually the English name isn't even a translation of the Chinese right next to it.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)
Like it'll say 'Fortune Garden' in English but the Chinese is actually 'Pork Restaurant' or something.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)
fail to see how that Chinese ad is any different from the Mexican ones with mariachis etc., I dont see Chinese people having a problem with it outside of maybe "come on, this isn't what our restaurant ads look like"
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)
have you asked your chinese friends their opinion?
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)
I don't have any Chinese friends.
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:32 (fourteen years ago)
oic
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
I used to work with an impro troupe that did a show in the country, where they got into a load of dreadful stereotypes with varying responses:
Italian accent with-a words-a ending like-a this-a and godfather hand gestures – uproarious laughter
French 'haw' noises and cheap gags about bread sticks – uproarious laughter
Chinese 'velly solly' gags – DEAD SILENCE
It seems to be down to whether the culture is *perceived* as a minority; to view e.g. the Chinese as a 'minority' in this day and age is condescending and absurd imo. Sorry if this ends up as another giant clusterfuck but I seriously dgi.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
the chinese are indeed a minority in washington, dc
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry if this ends up as another giant clusterfuck
lol no you aren't
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
French and Italian people are white, traditionally
― Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
"there are a billion people in your country, why are you mad that I called you 'slanty-eyes'"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)
Personally, I think it has something to do with the fact that I have never once seen an Asian person act in this way
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
how many asian people have you met tho
― iatee, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)
True, but I've never seen a French person wear a stripy jumper, clutch a wicker basket full of baguettes etc xp
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)
where I live there's a huge Hmong population and the only stereotype about them that really rang true is that they're all really, really good at pool
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
well obviously that's a racist thing
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
well I wouldn't laugh at this either but the image itself is kind of funny
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
aimless otm, re: stereotypical vs. racist
still, even stereotypes that don't rely on "genuinely negative imagery" can be effectively racist when they reflect an overall tendency to reduce perceived "others" to cartoonish types
― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)
the Chinese as a 'minority' in this day and age is condescending and absurd imo
omg lol
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:56 (fourteen years ago)
So, is this where I should mention the all white production of Hairspray being performed in the Dallas suburb of Plano, TX?
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:57 (fourteen years ago)
wait waht
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:58 (fourteen years ago)
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/mixmaster/2012/01/at_plano_childrens_theatre_the.php
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)
wtf
― Autumn Almanac (Schlafsack), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
It just came across my twitter feet and I actually did a face palm. Now I have to clean my glasses.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)
EZ has Twitter feet.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:02 (fourteen years ago)
it explains my horrible typing.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
haha i did not know enough (ie, anything) about 'hairspray' to recognize the problem
― mookieproof, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)
how they weren't going to bow to "political correctness"
This tells you all you really need to know, tbh.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:04 (fourteen years ago)
it's a pretty huge problem
in some ways, it's more problematic than doing an all-white "Porgy and Bess"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)