2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

God why isn't NBC playing the 30 Rock "Cleveland" song as the bumper music?

Haha awesome

She used the "It depends on what the definition of `is' is" defense, he says, "OK, you wanna play. FUCK OFF."

OBAMA: "WHATEVER HILLS"

hillary hits the wall

Is this streaming anywhere?

So far this is by some distance their best debate.

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080226/UPDATES01/80226031

Be warned that there's a super-annoying banner ad playing there

http://www.cleveland.com/live/video/

this is actually kind of good, huh?

This may be known as Obama's ORNALDO BLOOMPS moment.

He took down that Hillary thing HARDCORE. DAMMMNNN.

That was a close save on the Farrakhan question, and it might not have been enough for Ohioans on the fence. He was lucky that he got a second chance - irrelevant or not, he should have been ready for it, and it's going to matter to some people in Ohio who are wavering on him.

Russert: "What's up with this Russian guy?"

Putiy-patootey

"Muh Ma Meved-divah. Whatever."

At least she didn't call him menudo

Earth to Shrillary: YOU'RE NEVER FUNNY

Disproven in 12 hours!

Eep. Clinton just had a very Bush-esque moment. "Mededeveva..whatever." (Chuckle)

Yeah, believe it or not, it's pretty damn important to know the name of the next leader of Russia!

Or at least not pull the glib card.

I guess come to think of it Russia is kinda like Menudo these days.

Russert's Job Interview Question: "Tell me your worst quality."

russert's being a badass

Is Putin's puppet going to replace Ahmadinejad as the guy whose name is too evil to pronounce correctly?

Terry Schiavo!

"4 coming up and maybe more after that."

I don't know about this last Obama answer. . . .

Excellent Schiavo answer.

HRC won on the Russia question, btw.

Yeah

O copies the C closing statement from last time and does it better

OMG that Schiavo answer was awesome

I thought Schiavo answer was kinda lame, but it was a better do-no-harm answer than she would have come up with, probably

Obama: "I'd be a better president because people do not hate me."

Obama: "I AM IRON MAN."

wow she looks so fucking tired.

I like the perfunctory Clinton-Russert shake

Obama: "I'd be a better president because people do not hate me."

LOL

that HRC line about being the first questioned and the pillow will haunt her for the next news cycle.

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that HRC line about being the first questioned and the pillow will haunt her for the next news cycle.

So true, and such an odd line-in-the-sand for her to draw tonight.

I didn't watch SNL--is the pillow thing actually a joke they made?

Is this the sketch she was referring to?

http://www.sodahead.com/poll/52744/

Was HRC's answer that she'd like to have a "do-over" on her Iraq Authorization Bill vote a good or bad answer for her (politically)? I'm not sure.

How could it not be good?

I don't see how tonight helps her.

Eppy--yeah it was an actual joke.

It arguably admits a major gaffe on her part that plays into Obama's narrative (that HRC's alleged "experience" is irrelevant if she displays bad judgment).

(xp to Remy)

Because you could play it off as "She's ready on day one to fuck up and then say 'sorry i totally fucked up i would like a mulligan please' as the world burns around her." xpost.

I still think the most important moment of the night was Obama's bizarre aversion to an outright rejection of Farrakhan. I think that will only create problems for him in Ohio.

(I should note that it doesn't bother me personally. I'm not worried about the answer, and I plan to vote for him on the 4th.)