2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

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It's one of those pieces of legislation where if you went down the list and asked if voters agreed with each provision, they'd agree with 99%. Then if you asked if they agreed with Obama's healthcare reform policies, they'd get angry and denounce all the things they just said yes to.

mh, Friday, 27 January 2012 04:05 (fourteen years ago)

DAMMIT SOMEBODY SAY MORMON SOMEBODY SAY MORMON

GET A BRAIN MORMANS

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 27 January 2012 05:17 (fourteen years ago)

no surprise but they basically told that "palestinian-american republican" dude to go fuck himself

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Friday, 27 January 2012 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

Bob Dole releases Gingrich dis track

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 27 January 2012 13:43 (fourteen years ago)

Can't believe pitching a permanent moon base isn't a campaign killer.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 January 2012 14:34 (fourteen years ago)

that's newt has all this 'supported policy now considered left-wing' in his past
― iatee, Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's true of like 50+% percent of republicans in federal gov't before 2000

:-(

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 27 January 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

it was a lol moment like 10 debates ago when mitt was all I got the idea for Romneycare from you newt I just wanted u to like me why don't u like me

lag∞n, Friday, 27 January 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/articles/time-traveler-from-the-year-1998-warns-nation-not,27178/

Time Traveler From The Year 1998 Warns Nation Not To Elect Newt Gingrich

January 26, 2012 | ISSUE 48•04

WASHINGTON—Saying he came bearing an important message from the past, a stranger from the year 1998 appeared on the Capitol steps Thursday and urged voters not to elect Newt Gingrich president in 2012. "In the late 20th century, Newt Gingrich is a complete disgrace!" said the time-traveling man, warning Americans that 14 years in the not-so-distant past, Gingrich becomes the only speaker in the history of the House of Representatives to be found guilty on ethics charges, and is later forced to resign. "In my time, he shuts down the federal government for 28 days because his feelings get hurt over having to sit at the back of Air Force One. Gingrich gets our president impeached for lying about marital infidelities when, at the same time, Gingrich himself is engaged in his own extramarital affairs. And for God's sake, he divorced his first wife after she was diagnosed with cancer. Won't anyone listen to me?!?" When asked about Donald Trump, the time-traveler said he had no information on the man, as no one from 1998 cared about a "washed-up fake millionaire."

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Friday, 27 January 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

you guys talk about the lengthy Ron Paul ads before Youtubes yet?

ban dejar (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 27 January 2012 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.therightscoop.com/sarah-palin-cannibals-in-gop-establishment-employ-tactics-of-the-left/

Palin's usually as transparent as you'd expect someone so dumb to be (she's one of the few people I feel comfortable calling dumb), but I find her sudden attachment to Gingrich puzzling. I'm not sure what she expects to get out of this.

clemenza, Friday, 27 January 2012 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

another book deal? a spot next to him on the couch?

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 January 2012 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

a spot next to him on the moon

lag∞n, Friday, 27 January 2012 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

veep

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

I don't get it. Her own political standing has all but vanished, and she's jumped on board with someone who looks to be headed for oblivion himself. As an expression of her own consuming resentment over her fall from the party's good graces, it makes sense, but otherwise, not at all.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

My read: she waited until a candidate began to emerge who was gaining the majority of the tea party's support -- and now Gingrich has emerged as their guy. It doesn't matter atm whether he wins the nomination or not. She needed to show she was on the same wavelength with the people who buy her books, who watch her on Fox, who put bread on her table and fill up her bank account.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

how did u guys get SO CYNICAL

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

We learned it from YOU!!! (Or Morbs, I forget)

nickn, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:28 (fourteen years ago)

If she has indeed given up on the idea of ever holding elective office again--especially the delusion of the presidency--then Aimless's interpretation makes sense. I was working from the assumption she hadn't, that she was moving around chess pieces in her head. (Okay, Snakes and Ladders.)

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure she's aware enough to know that if Romney/Paul/Santorum get the nom she won't be brought along for anything.

nickn, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

We learned it from YOU!!! (Or Morbs, I forget)

― nickn, Friday, January 27, 2012 7:28 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i learned it by watching you dad or mom or someone i cant remember so fn high damn

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2012 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

i kinda thought santorum would be more up palin's alley, so to speak? i suppose she's more aligned with newt temperamentally (and opportunistically), but still.

mookieproof, Saturday, 28 January 2012 01:18 (fourteen years ago)

obama's a much more coherent debater than any of these dudes and if he really wants to make romney squirm w/ health care it won't be hard
― iatee, Friday, 27 January 2012 03:06 (Yesterday) Permalink

all obama really needs to say is (w/r/t to romneycare), "i agreed with romney 1.0, romney 2.0 clearly has some bugs."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 28 January 2012 01:30 (fourteen years ago)

i kinda thought santorum would be more up palin's alley, so to speak?

GAH

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 January 2012 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

^^ irl lol

Aimless, Saturday, 28 January 2012 01:39 (fourteen years ago)

all obama really needs to say is (w/r/t to romneycare), "i agreed with romney 1.0, romney 2.0 clearly has some bugs."

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, January 27, 2012 7:30 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or something like, "mitt, i know you can't say this because you can't anger parts of your own party, but you had a good idea going there with what you did in massachusetts."

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 28 January 2012 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424020_10100968014952083_1223579_62575855_20596660_n.jpg

Newt and Callista at Auschwitz.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 28 January 2012 04:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4f1f25ee6bb3f73325000037/newt-gingrich-callisata-gingrich.jpg

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 28 January 2012 04:41 (fourteen years ago)

this makes me think about how there's probably a lot of people who have done this. What a strange impulse.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 28 January 2012 04:46 (fourteen years ago)

Uh, wtf

mh, Saturday, 28 January 2012 04:47 (fourteen years ago)

i can smell the pixels

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 January 2012 11:07 (fourteen years ago)

THEY'RE SMILING.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:12 (fourteen years ago)

Nice look under the hood on Dole's Newt ambush:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/timothy-noah/100111/doles-sweet-revenge

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2012 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

Pretty creepy how neither of them casts a shadow

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Saturday, 28 January 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

No surprise:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/01/romney_opens_up_big_lead.php?ref=fpblg.

What I find maddening is the way that the lagging national polls follow every twist and turn of the state polls faithfully. Gingrich's lead has widened to 10 points nationally, but you know that'll swing majorly back the other way as soon Romney wins Florida (much as Gingrich benefited nationally at other times). Maybe I'm misremembering, but I don't recall these wild national swings for the Democrats in 2008; it was Hillary maintaining a national lead (or a virtual tie) for a long time, and her support falling away only after Obama became inevitable. I mean, if you're living in a state that doesn't have its primary till March, and you're for Gingrich or Romney on Tuesday, and then you immediately change your mind three days later because of results out of South Carolina or Florida, that's weird.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

people are reeeeeally dumb

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 28 January 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

that a deep hard won insight for sure but on the other hand a big part of why we see this phenomenon is because a lot of the primary process is abt electability, so voters are receiving info abt electability and changing their preference based on that, its sort of tautological but sort of makes sense too

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

@BorowitzReport Gingrich's campaign in Florida seems to be dying, so I expect him to leave it soon

Ouch...

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

a lot of the primary process is abt electability

This is a recent phenonmenon. Believe it or not, there was a time when a candidate's positions on the issues of the day mattered more to voters than this strange notion of 'electability'. I think it's a side effect of the current polarization, where voters have been led to view the election of a president of the 'opposite' party as an apocalyptic catastrophe.

Of course, George W. Bush's administration did lend some color of legitimacy to this pov.

Aimless, Saturday, 28 January 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

w/e grandpa *plays fruit ninja*

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

Barely two years later, after having been chosen Time magazine's Man of the Year, Gingrich had plummeted in public esteem to where, in a CBS-New York Times poll, just 14 percent of voters had favorable personal feelings toward the speaker.

This prompted an apocryphal Washington exchange between a perplexed Gingrich and Dole. "Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?" asked a perplexed Gingrich, to whom Dole bluntly explained: "Because it saves them time."

http://www.creators.com/opinion/mark-shields/newt-rewrites-his-reagan-connection.html

clemenza, Saturday, 28 January 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, that might be the greatest of all Dole zings.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

Dole for Zingmaster General

mh, Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

Dole-blooooded

Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

damn

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

key word is apocryphal -- but major props to dole if he did say that

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

Remember Dole's famous remark on spotting Carter, Ford, and Nixon at the Reagan White House for Anwar Sadat's funeral? "See no evil, hear no evil, and evil."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:39 (fourteen years ago)

haha

lag∞n, Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

Unfortunately, found this in the comments:

Call me suspicious but this purported quote is a verbatim quote from a line in M*A*S*H* wherein Frank Burns plays Gingrich and Trapper John plays Dole. Since that season of MASH predated this supposed exchange by more than 20 years, I smell a rat.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Francis Strazzeri
Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:11 PM

And sure enough: http://sharetv.org/shows/mash/episodes/287300.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

if the legend becomes fact, post the legend to ILX

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 29 January 2012 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

i think newt wouldn't be self-aware enough to ask that question

the American Enterprise Institute asks "How Thick Is Your (symsymsym), Sunday, 29 January 2012 01:35 (fourteen years ago)


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