newt's love of space, space travel, space colonization, etc is the only thing i find endearing in him
― Mordy, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:09 (fourteen years ago)
He's got a great first name--it makes me think of Michael Hurley--and he has an excellent command of adverbs.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:11 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhYavH5pQRA
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:14 (fourteen years ago)
:-)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:33 (fourteen years ago)
ditto. but like emph on "only"
― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:54 (fourteen years ago)
i presume you read that hilarious joan didion takedown somebody posted upthread...
Nope, I haven't yet, I just know about his fearmongering from the 80s onward, and weird cowriting on sci-fi & alt-history stuff.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:46 (fourteen years ago)
worth reading: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1995/aug/10/the-teachings-of-speaker-gingrich/
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:49 (fourteen years ago)
What if the Nazis had landed on the moon.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:55 (fourteen years ago)
They did have a rocket program, and we would never have gotten there were it not for Operation Paperclip
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:59 (fourteen years ago)
lunarwaffe
― Mordy, Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:59 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.bookfever.com/book_photos/49195.jpg
how I was first introduced to the multiverse theory in quantum mechanics when I was like 13
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:03 (fourteen years ago)
L to R: tom selleck, liam neeson, hal holbrook.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:14 (fourteen years ago)
http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/6379590-L.jpg
how i was first introduced to quantum mechanics period
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:14 (fourteen years ago)
its treatment of the subject was shallow at best
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:15 (fourteen years ago)
well, Ming the Merciless loved that shit too ...
― wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:52 (fourteen years ago)
today newt informed a florida crowd that when his proposed permanent lunar base reaches a population of 13,000 it can apply for statehood
as a dc resident, even i kinda have to give credit where credit's due re trolling at this level
― scream blahula scream (govern yourself accordingly), Thursday, 26 January 2012 09:03 (fourteen years ago)
god the primary season would be so complicated
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 26 January 2012 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
Or booking a short tour, even
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 26 January 2012 13:17 (fourteen years ago)
Would they get an NBA franchise?
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 13:56 (fourteen years ago)
Sheldon Adelson backing Newt has started making me rethink Citizens United. Before, candidates were being bought by wealthy people and industries, but the network of donations and money funneling was so complex as to make it incomprehensible to average voters. Also, from Chait:
Money is the primary mechanism that parties use to herd voters toward the choices the elites would prefer them to make. The nomination of George W. Bush offers a classic example. Bush and his network had organized so many Republicans to donate so much money that the contest was essentially over well before a vote had been cast. The Bush fund-raising network didn’t involve a handful of billionaires in a room. It required thousands of fairly affluent people working together...But under the present system, Gingrich can simply have a single extremely wealthy supporter, Sheldon Adelson, write a series of $5 million checks. “Winning Our Future” is Gingrich’s “independent” PAC, and it’s an entire shadow campaign, complete with a ground operation in addition to advertising. Adelson’s money isn’t enough for Gingrich to attain parity with Romney – he’s probably being outspent at least two to one – but it is keeping him alive.
..But under the present system, Gingrich can simply have a single extremely wealthy supporter, Sheldon Adelson, write a series of $5 million checks. “Winning Our Future” is Gingrich’s “independent” PAC, and it’s an entire shadow campaign, complete with a ground operation in addition to advertising. Adelson’s money isn’t enough for Gingrich to attain parity with Romney – he’s probably being outspent at least two to one – but it is keeping him alive.
If true, CU is subverting the normal ways of doing business in politics. Obviously there are issues in having a candidate so obviously beholden to one particular billionaire, but does that substantively differ from that candidate being beholden to a particular industry, or a group of billionaires/millionaires with aligned interests? Maybe this will force the reigns of power to become more public and overt - which will open them up to criticism and dissent in a way that's impossible to do when the contributors are nameless.
Just a thought...
― Mordy, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)
That is the only good part of the CU decision IMO
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:02 (fourteen years ago)
nate silver thinks romney has a slight edge in florida atm
in any case it should be close enough for gingrich to be sticking around
― iatee, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:10 (fourteen years ago)
Reality's setting in. I'm sad.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:24 (fourteen years ago)
newt's love of space, space travel, space colonization, etc is the only thing i find endearing in himwell, Ming the Merciless loved that shit too ...
iirc Ming's platform was more about cannabis legalisation and latterly turf-cutting.
― CJ Fam Club (seandalai), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
What's w/ Pelosi's cryptic "[pause, grin]...There's something I know" response to the reporter asking her how she is sure Gingrich won't be president? (video 1:50)
― Je55e, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
maybe he's been cheating on callista w/ pelosi
― iatee, Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
ha funny enough i just read a little bit on that
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/nancy-pelosi-doesnt-have-a-gingrich-secret.html
After telling CNN yesterday that she was certain Newt Gingrich would never become president because "there is something I know," Nancy Pelosi is now clarifying that she doesn't actually have any deep, dark Gingrich secrets. "The 'something' Leader Pelosi knows is that Newt Gingrich will not be President of the United States," a spokesperson claims. So how does she know? Because she knows. Fascinating.
― Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
they did sit on that couch, remember
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)
could be any number of things - something from the ethics committee investigation, the fact that all his former House colleagues hate him, some GOP establishment plan to kneecap him, etc
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)
This pelosi thing is just one more lesson that a politician should never deviate one inch from the script when in front of a camera. What a horrible way to live. This shows me she still has a scrap of humanity left in her.
― Aimless, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
I've been assuming that she actually DOES know something, but discretion is the better part of valor and so in the end she has to say she doesn't actually know a thing, but with a smile on her face.
― one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)
She may not be able to say anything about it, assuming there is an "it", but as Newty gets further in the race, scrutiny will increase, and SOMEone is guaranteed to leak to an intrepid reporter and then we'll have fun.
― one little aioli (Laurel), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)
I just don't know what secret about Newt could be more devastating than all the stuff we already know about him...
― Mordy, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
Pelosi should've just laughed derisively at the notion of a Newt admin. getting all smirky and conspiratorial about something that likely doesn't exist or is already public knowledge is kinda dopey.
otoh, if it was in any way a gambit that somehow improves Newt's chances during the primary due to the Right's unhinged hatred of Pelosi, then i must say kudos.
― your dominican divorce (will), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
ah c'mon Mordy use your imaginewtion
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.comic-mint.com/media/client/kodos-kang-congress-steps-e0064_sml.JPG
― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
cogent analysis from the right? wtf
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)
As analysis goes, I found that rather tepid and obvious. The columnist worries that the bombs the candidates are throwing will damage the eventual nominee. He also admits that the bombs consist mostly of the truth, but never draws the obvious conclusion that the Republican party was unable to field a single candidate without huge, glaring, ugly flaws, and this reveals a structural weakness in the party itself. Nope. Instead he attributes this weakness to some mysterious new force, possibly the internet or the debates.
God forbid the WSJ acknowledge that "more tax breaks and less regulation" is not a viable political philosophy atm.
― Aimless, Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)
Obviously there are issues in having a candidate so obviously beholden to one particular billionaire, but does that substantively differ from that candidate being beholden to a particular industry, or a group of billionaires/millionaires with aligned interests?
Yes, I think so. It is harder for an entire group of billionaires to be nuts in the same direction at once than it is for one particular billionaire. So you get lower volatility, which in most markets is something that's worth a lot.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
bob dole on newt:
I have not been critical of Newt Gingrich but it is now time to take a stand before it is too late. If Gingrich is the nominee it will have an adverse impact on Republican candidates running for county, state, and federal offices. Hardly anyone who served with Newt in Congress has endorsed him and that fact speaks for itself. He was a one-man-band who rarely took advice. It was his way or the highway.
Gingrich served as Speaker from 1995 to 1999 and had trouble within his own party. Already in 1997 a number of House members wanted to throw him out as Speaker. But he hung on until after the 1998 elections when the writing was on the wall. His mounting ethics problems caused him to resign in early 1999. I know whereof I speak as I helped establish a line of credit of $150,000 to help Newt pay off the fine for his ethics violations. In the end, he paid the fine with money from other sources.
Gingrich had a new idea every minute and most of them were off the wall. He loved picking a fight with Bill Clinton because he knew this would get the attention of the press. This and a myriad of other specifics helped to topple Gingrich in 1998.
In my run for the presidency in 1996 the Democrats greeted me with a number of negative TV ads and in every one of them Newt was in the ad. He was very unpopular and I am not only certain that this did not help me, but that it also cost House seats that year. Newt would show up at the campaign headquarters with an empty ice-bucket in his hand — that was a symbol of some sort for him — and I never did know what he was doing or why he was doing it.
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)
an indelible image, this
Newt would show up at the campaign headquarters with an empty ice-bucket in his hand — that was a symbol of some sort for him — and I never did know what he was doing or why he was doing it.
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
haha
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
I can hear that indelible Bob Dole voice, incredulous about Newt and the ice bucket.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
wtf with the ice bucket!!
― Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)
Bob Dole doesn't have any ice!
"Bob Dole doesn't have ice," said Bob Dole.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
omg
― brownie, Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
"Where's the muthah fuckin' party?"
― nickn, Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)
I read that Bob Woodward book about the lead-up to the 1996 election and it mostly focused on Dole since (A) Clinton already had the nomination locked up and (B) Dole was the only one of the two who actually talked to Woodward.
In it, Newt's kind of this background figure who every once in awhile someone turns and goes, "The fuck?"
― pplains, Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)
I wish I could find the clip of Tip O'Neill instructing CSPAN to pan back to show that Newt was addressing an empty House chamber.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)