2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

i actually think daniels is doing as good and persuasive a job as anyone in articulating what passes for ideology among the GOP, as deeply rotten as it is.

unfortunately for him his cadences are deadly dull so i doubt anyone gives a shit.

The Republican Response should be called State of Bummer Address

waka

I think 99.6% of this response was written before Obama said anything... and he just keeps on going. Way to come up with a response on the fly

sotus rebuttal is a shit job, u got no one clapping 4 u

no u don't understand. he came up with the response on a fly. jotted down notes on sticky fragile fly wings xp

xpost

well yeah that's always true no? like i said he's just generically articulating the small-government, "pro-business" ideology of the GOP in as coherent a way as is possible, with a relative minimum of outward newt-style personal resentment.

kind of making me prefer the honest assholism of newt TBH.

I'm not sure I see the difference.

really? newt just wears it all on his sleeve, he translates the politics of resentment into an ethos of personal animosity and resentment.

I should probably agree with the pessimism in the republican response because congress can't pass a bill to save America's life

The diabolic republican plan of stuffing up congress seems unstoppable and it will do a number against any smart optimistic idea Obama gets applauded over

(the last 4 years in a nutshell)

Still recovering from the spilt milk joke. It was fundamentally, profoundly awkward.

I DIDN'T GET iT

This probably is a poor thread in which to discuss SotU, but I did notice that Obama took pains to distance himself from Congress. He was all 'send me something, you lazy louts, and I'll sign it right away'.

I don't think it would help him to be nice to congress. He's gonna get screwed by them anyway so he might as well go down in history distancing himself from them (and by them I do mean the red seats)

how much on detention & drones?

About 15 minutes

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@SpeakerBoehner Just read some of your tweets and you seem pretty angry kind sir. I can see you on tv but you're not smiling. Hope you're ok
9:40pm - 24 Jan 12

Also good commentary of the night:

Fake Jill Biden

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJillBiden

speaker-boehner sounds like one of those prog rock duo also-rans whose albums populate the lesser record stores of the nation.

The diabolic republican plan of stuffing up congress seems unstoppable and it will do a number against any smart optimistic idea Obama gets applauded over

(the last 4 years in a nutshell)

They've only had Congress for two years, tho.

I imagine that all of the stuff in this speech is going into one of two folders, marked "Things I can do by myself" and "Things I can do from 2014, maybe". I don't imagine that Obama is seriously expecting that a wave of voters will successfully lobby Republican congresspeople with "Why aren't you supporting this?".

mondale was game but everybody knew reagan would win in 1984; four years before was the shocker.

actually yes sorry - my memory of watching the results with my dad was in 1980, not 84!

xp that said, if there are big Democrat gains in the Senate, I would imagine that some Republicans in Congress will start thinking hard about mandates and The Good of the Nation.

They've only had Congress for two years, tho.

― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:21 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

uh dawg the filibuster

damn, it's so long since I heard that excuse

it probably hasn't been that long

no, libs have long moved on to "What are their demands?" and "You have to vote like a grownup"

by using the term 'libs' to describe people you don't like, you're p much speaking in fox news

sorta the political equivalent of complaining about 'white people'

I'm quoting liberal friends p much verbatim

damn, it's so long since I heard that excuse

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:35 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how is this an excuse, u have no idea what youre talking abt ever, shit you dont even bother to read the thread before inserting yr lame zings, i think you might be a bot!

Dems "couldn't do anything" in 2009-10 bcz they didn't have 60 votes in the Senate, right? how is this NOT an excuse as it is commonly utilized in public discourse? if u have a diff pt I apologize for not pickin it up.

i definitely get a whiff of "well may the world go" from morby. given his equal opportunity contempt and unending cynicism, i wonder what he thinks is the way forward....

he doesn't think there IS a way forward and his incessant yammering is intended to make the rest of us give up as well

morbs, i'm not saying you have to unconditional approve everything or even much that obama says or does. lord knows i don't. but when you basically blanket everybody associated w/ electoral politics in your contempt, then react cynically when people bring up e.g. the possibility of 3rd parties, it's like... do you just want to be the most world-weary person in the room or what?

unconditionally

i always leave off the -ly on adverbs

he does!

oh this is bound to be productive

I don't want anything; plz put "unending cynicism" on the pros where it belongs.

I don't want anything

well that's obviously untrue. at some level you want self-approval, and i guess you get it by reacting as cynically as possible to every conceivable turn of the political discourse.

also, this is supposed to be the GOP-monkeys-throwing-shit thread, so bye

the filibuster is a real thing you really need 60 votes to pass most things in the senate, its not some imaginary excuse mechanism

also, this is supposed to be the GOP-monkeys-throwing-shit thread, so bye

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

good riddance. you'll probably be back, though.

This probably is a poor thread in which to discuss SotU, but I did notice that Obama took pains to distance himself from Congress. He was all 'send me something, you lazy louts, and I'll sign it right away'.

The diabolic republican plan of stuffing up congress seems unstoppable and it will do a number against any smart optimistic idea Obama gets applauded over

They've only had Congress for two years, tho.

^^this and the GOP has been furiously flogging the line that the GOP House members have been busy little bees diligently crafting and passing jobs legislation, only to be tabled by that dastardly Harry Reid in the Senate

sorta the political equivalent of complaining about 'white people'

― iatee, Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:44 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

tumblr dems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3bYBkGgRCE

every single person in that ad is white

What wins in America is a plan, a plan that includes large amounts of fairy dust mined out of my arse. I'd tell you what this plan is, but then you might not like it.

Michelle Bachmann, the new Phyllis Schafly:

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/otherviews/138006423.html

I might opine she's more like Andy Schafly, but whatever...

Seriously, I thought Pawlenty had left the presidential race.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oOctFYskBYeMPnkD0tR3mQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD00Mjk7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/01/25/Unknown-15-jpeg_181420.jpg

Love the expression on the toady's face.