2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

finally obama puts it in terms I can understand - we should all act like we're playing counterstrike online

exit chamber to morcheeba plz

The vision on values and ethics he's pushing I do like

tbh i found that last part fascinating, the stitching together of myth & metaphor, it's one of the strongest pieces of that kind of writing i've heard for a long time

honestly thought it was nifty to use the shooting-evildoers metaphor to couch the "socialism"

yeah

i guess the totemic value of bin laden throughout the speech is p interesting - i can't remember what he's said about it, other than those flip & usually weird remarks in interviews, etc - but that it becomes this commodifiable, enrapturing & difficult to criticise, dramatic motif to work with on another plain, it is interesting

The evening's best moment: Justice Ginsberg greeting him, arms wide open.

oh guess what guys: Peggy Noonan's on, offering wisdom.

The evening's best moment: Justice Ginsberg greeting him, arms wide open.

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aw i missed this, i saw her looking either v meditative or v tuned out towards the end

JonahNRO There was some pretty stuff at the end. But I *hate* the moral equivalent of war stuff. It's undemocratic and contrary to liberty.

DanFosterNRO Quick, don't think about it. Can you see Newt at that podium? Romney?

god, the GOP might as well get mastodon to do the response.

mitch daniels giving me a very 1988 vibe

His haircut giving me a very 1888 vibe.

in general it just feels like he got dressed/coiffed in the late 1980s and then got beamed into 2012

"go get 'em, tiger!"

he just repeated the "tens of thousands" lie on keystone xl that not even transcanada agrees with.

tens of thousands of jobs created, that is

Sullivan is a piece of work:

We voted for Obama; now we find we got another Clinton.

"now we find"

we voted for a democrat for president. now we find we got another democratic president.

although the bit about forcing kids to stay in high school by watching The Artist at gunpoint was twaddle.

i actually think daniels is doing as good and persuasive a job as anyone in articulating what passes for ideology among the GOP, as deeply rotten as it is.

unfortunately for him his cadences are deadly dull so i doubt anyone gives a shit.

The Republican Response should be called State of Bummer Address

waka

I think 99.6% of this response was written before Obama said anything... and he just keeps on going. Way to come up with a response on the fly

sotus rebuttal is a shit job, u got no one clapping 4 u

no u don't understand. he came up with the response on a fly. jotted down notes on sticky fragile fly wings xp

xpost

well yeah that's always true no? like i said he's just generically articulating the small-government, "pro-business" ideology of the GOP in as coherent a way as is possible, with a relative minimum of outward newt-style personal resentment.

kind of making me prefer the honest assholism of newt TBH.

I'm not sure I see the difference.

really? newt just wears it all on his sleeve, he translates the politics of resentment into an ethos of personal animosity and resentment.

I should probably agree with the pessimism in the republican response because congress can't pass a bill to save America's life

The diabolic republican plan of stuffing up congress seems unstoppable and it will do a number against any smart optimistic idea Obama gets applauded over

(the last 4 years in a nutshell)

Still recovering from the spilt milk joke. It was fundamentally, profoundly awkward.

I DIDN'T GET iT

This probably is a poor thread in which to discuss SotU, but I did notice that Obama took pains to distance himself from Congress. He was all 'send me something, you lazy louts, and I'll sign it right away'.

I don't think it would help him to be nice to congress. He's gonna get screwed by them anyway so he might as well go down in history distancing himself from them (and by them I do mean the red seats)

how much on detention & drones?

About 15 minutes

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@SpeakerBoehner Just read some of your tweets and you seem pretty angry kind sir. I can see you on tv but you're not smiling. Hope you're ok
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Also good commentary of the night:

Fake Jill Biden

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrJillBiden

speaker-boehner sounds like one of those prog rock duo also-rans whose albums populate the lesser record stores of the nation.

The diabolic republican plan of stuffing up congress seems unstoppable and it will do a number against any smart optimistic idea Obama gets applauded over

(the last 4 years in a nutshell)

They've only had Congress for two years, tho.

I imagine that all of the stuff in this speech is going into one of two folders, marked "Things I can do by myself" and "Things I can do from 2014, maybe". I don't imagine that Obama is seriously expecting that a wave of voters will successfully lobby Republican congresspeople with "Why aren't you supporting this?".

mondale was game but everybody knew reagan would win in 1984; four years before was the shocker.

actually yes sorry - my memory of watching the results with my dad was in 1980, not 84!

xp that said, if there are big Democrat gains in the Senate, I would imagine that some Republicans in Congress will start thinking hard about mandates and The Good of the Nation.

They've only had Congress for two years, tho.

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uh dawg the filibuster

damn, it's so long since I heard that excuse

it probably hasn't been that long

no, libs have long moved on to "What are their demands?" and "You have to vote like a grownup"

by using the term 'libs' to describe people you don't like, you're p much speaking in fox news