2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

oh great, we've reached the race-baiting portion of the evening

wow how did u even manage that p sure theres been nothing but GOP debates on tv for like two years

― lag∞n, Monday, January 23, 2012 10:04 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

literally had to get rid of my tv to achieve this iirc i am sitting outside my neighbor's window rn

haha

I'm just glad you're sitting outside your neighbor's window and commenting so I don't have to watch the thing.

this is the first debate i've seen most of the way through, too, and i'm just sorta sitting here with hands on my cheeks like http://s2.favim.com/orig/30/aww-cute-demi-lovato-dog-hannah-Favim.com-246989.jpg aww they think they're people

kathrynlopez newt no es pandering

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i don't have the spanish

loooool "self-deport"

loool @ guy in audience loling @ "self-deport"

really wish moderators would call these assholes on their imaginary take on immigration but i guess that's when newt would bring out the "liberal media" guns

tbh newt has been way too genial historian in this debate i prefer my newt mean and racist

foaming at the mouth about food stamps

the historian thing is making me draw my breath a bit because it sounds p eerily like relatives

loool @ guy in audience loling @ "self-deport"

haha srsly

he kind of sucks in his cheeks when he's reciting dates to embellish this fantasy that he's this consummate historical mind it's infuriating

SELF DEPORTATION

at least brian williams/adam smith was like "is self-deportation really a valid concept?" but still

you have to refer to reality more frequently to hold these dudes accountable

Taibbi updates about SC, mentions Chris Morris, links to a Brass Eye vid:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/south-carolina-comedy-poster-contest-result-20120123

Ninety rounds of golf is like once every two weeks.

Started to nod off before the break; it's only fun when Romeny and Newt go at each other.

so many xps

its maybe a bit of rhetorical judo? like the left often (mostly appropriately) reaches for HARD DATA and newt has probably scoped the fact that a slice of voters (many ron paul ppl) fucking love inside baseball SCOTUS decisions/historicity.

yeah maybe. also i keep encountering this fiction that newt gingrich is "the smart conservative" and i suspect...he is the author of that fiction.

Dude's been writing apocalyptic technothriller wank fanfic since last 1984, hasn't he?

since like, rather

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.....prizes.

i thought it was counterfactual historical novels. what if the Confederacy won the Civil War?, etc.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1995/aug/10/the-teachings-of-speaker-gingrich/?pagination=false

i link to this everywhere but thats joan didion in 1995 absolutely murking gingrich mostly just by reproducing all of his stupid ideas right next to one another

To complain that Mr. Gingrich’s thinking is “schematic,” as some have, seems not exactly to describe the problem, which is that the “scheme,” as revealed in his writing and in his lectures, remains so largely occult. The videotaped “Renewing American Civilization” lecture in which Mr. Gingrich discusses “The Historic Lessons of American Civilization,” which is Pillar One of The Five Pillars of American Civilization, offers, for example, clips from several television movies and documentaries about the Civil War, but not much clue about why the lessons of American civilization might be “historic,” and no clue at all why the remaining four Pillars of American Civilization (“Personal Strength,” “Entrepreneurial Free Enterprise,” “The Spirit of Invention and Discovery,” and “Quality as Defined by Deming”) might not be more clearly seen as subsections of Pillar One, or lessons of civilization. Similarly, the attempt to track from one to five through Mr. Gingrich’s “Five Reasons for Studying American History” (“One: History is a collective memory”; “Two: American history is the history of our civilization”; “Three: There is an American exceptionalism that can best be understood through history”; “Four: History is a resource to be learned from and used”; and “Five: There are techniques that can help you learn problem-solving from historic experience”) leaves the tracker fretful, uneasy, uncertain just whose synapses are misfiring.

bless you max that is just what i need to read rn!

http://cdn103.iofferphoto.com/img/item/141/364/681/vTp2XDQ2h0OgnNJ.jpg

everyone knows custer died at little big horn. what this book presupposes is...maybe he didn't

^^newt, circa 2001

sure but what does caitlin flanagan think

that his first wife should have given him an open marriage and anything else he wanted?

Newt will not waste time answering valid questions!

uh romney's glee that ted kennedy had to take out a mortgage on his house when running against him might not play that well in housing market under water florida

every time I hear the word "obamacare" I want to suicide myself

and get obamacare to take care of my self inflicted stab wounds

like Obama is my dr

uh romney's glee that ted kennedy had to take out a mortgage on his house when running against him might not play that well in housing market under water florida

eh don't underrate peoples' love for other peoples' suffering

pretty hardcore when you're richer than the kennedys tho

Esp Ted Kennedy. In this audience, people probably love that image.

maybe. i still think the way he hit the word "mortgage" was unfortunate, like it was a situation he couldn't imagine.

uh romney's glee that ted kennedy had to take out a mortgage on his house when running against him might not play that well in housing market under water florida

whoa for real? this guy has zero clue how to be a tough guy. it's like he was raised by his sainted rich mormon dad and then went out into the world, and the first like cool assholes he ran with were other investment bankers

yeah the entire sentence was "i didn't win but ted kennedy had to take out a mortgage on his house running against me" like is that supposed to be badass?

I was going to mention the Kennedy line too. Second time he's thrown that out--it's creepy.

Romney wins when he doesn't lose, so I guess he won. Tonight shouldn't change anything, but when both Romney and Gingrich are calmly answering questions, I get the feeling it slows whatever movement there's been in Gingrich's direction.

great find on that didion thing, max

from reviews i've read newt's fake history isn't 'what if the south' won, but like odder and dumber. like the civil war is different somehow but the north still wins, ww2 is different but the nazis lose. yeah idk either.

re: romney mortgaging his house, that comes off as crass. and it's a talking point, he's said it before. it's in really bad taste because kennedy isn't around to defend himself - leave the man in peace.

yeah it was just gross all around

the other reason why it's a poor talking point is that HE LOST THE ELECTION

haha that didion piece :D

i know! "i didn't win but the other guy went broke" makes you seem like a jerk and pathetic at the same time!