Liverpool still won't win the premiership (2007/08 edition)

Meanwhile Gabriel Heinze has lost his appeal and been told he can't join Liverpool, so god knows where that leaves him. Booed by his own supporters, possibly. This season is turning out to be even more lurid and ridiculous than predicted.

spurs should sign him, obviously.

with heinze and ramos we will win the league for sure.

he's going to lyon innit

I always like Heinze's brand of defending (i.e. tackle/foul like a nutter, take tackles/fouls like a nutter, smiling all the while - especially if it really hurts, occasionally kick a ball). I'm kind of disappointed he's become a want-away-force-a-transfer-chase-the-cash-talk-to-my-agent kind of guy.

be fair, he was dropped during an injury, and rednose now considers evra a better left back. which is just crazy. heinze is good enough to be first choice at a big european club so why should he settle for understudy to a joke?

but evra is tremendous!

Heinze was great when he first arrived, but he's not been the same since he came back from injury. Evra is definitely better, and when Heinze got a run in the team at the tail end of last season (when United's entire defence were injured) he was shite. I would happily take £6m for him, but I think it's funny that the hatred between United and Liverpool seems to have taken on an official dimension ("Thou shalt not move from Manchester United to Liverpool").

when Heinze got a run in the team at the tail end of last season (when United's entire defence were injured) he was shite.

Wasn't he played out of position at centre half though?

I think he played a mixture of positions depending on just how many were injured, but he never impressed.

I think it's funny that the hatred between United and Liverpool seems to have taken on an official dimension ("Thou shalt not move from Manchester United to Liverpool").

It would be nice to think that, but I think Fergie actually said he wouldn't sell to any of United's title rivals, meaning no moving to Chelsea or Arsenal either.

i think all the blame for spurs' underachievement should be laid squarely at whoever it was that sanctioned signing didier zokora.

or whoever continues to allow gardner into the ground.

ah seriously, when you see how good jenas can be in flashes, wouldn't you just love to beat him soundly with a hosepipe?

i thought zokora was good??

zokora is alright, actually. we have bigger problems.

like "WHAT IS JERMAIN JENAS FOR????" that is a big problem...

so that liverpool fans can say- look what stephen gerrard would be like with kieron dyers mentality.

zokora is very far from alright from what i've seen of him. runs all over the pitch like a loon and can't pass for toffee. for a supposed defensive midfielder (tottenham have no bigger problem than this) you'd get more joy out of putting a weetabix on the centre circle every match.

if i didn't know better i'd almost be blaming him for jenas looking equally pointless, but instead i think i will blame tom huddlestone's strange and inexplicable stagnation.

Spurs are a much better team when Jenas is playing*, it was only when he and Zokora were together in midfield last season that we started winning matches consistently. Zokora is such a frustrating player in that he's clearly talented but what's the point in going on rapid box to box runs if you're only going to blast it over the bar or run straight into the opposing defence.

*Probably not a better team than with, say, Juan Roman Riquelme playing, admittedly.

The stagnation of Huddlestone is a bloody crime, I think he's bloody marvellous, not quite as marvellous as Micah Richards (who was absolutely immense in the manc derby).

Now Levy's claiming that Jol is staying at Spurs, which probably means 'Ramos won't join us til the end of the season, we don't *really* think Harry Redknapp will lead us to glory so it looks like we're stuck with Martin. Let's threaten him with the sack if he doesn't get us into the Champions League and if he does, well we'll cross that bridge when we come to it'.

alternatively Sid Lowe is just RUBBISH and is making half of this up...

lolz

Spurs guaranteed to lose 4-1 this weekend.

But Spurs have denied making any offer and said: "No individual was or has been offered the position while that position has been held by Martin Jol."

all these past tenses?

No individual or has been was offered the position held by has been Martin Jol.

That Man Utd v Spurs game is suddenly rather bigger than a match played in August has any right to be.

jol out. i am gonna make this happen. i hide under levy's pillow and whisper to him at night.

will be at the match on sunday with united supporting brother.

it's either fergi out or jol out after this weekend. or both

Tottenham's last 15 league finishes (i.e. since the Prem started):

8, 15, 7, 8, 10, 14, 11, 10, 12, 9, 10, 14, 9, 5, 5

How anyone can want the manager sacked after looking at that is beyond me.

and spurs were only 5th a couple of years ago due to food poisoning.

and failure to beat west ham.

or failure to eat best ham, i think you mean.

touche like A FOX!!

whoah

Benitez: "I want to ask the Premier League why it was so difficult for Liverpool to sign Javier Mascherano, when we had to wait a long time for the paperwork, but it was so easy for Carlos Tevez to join Manchester United?"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6958993.stm

Well, firstly, it took you a fairly long time to sign Mascherano because the original deal that West Ham made was so dodgy that it was always going to attract attention, and because you had to get FIFA to agree to let you break their rule about a player not representing more than two clubs in a season. Secondly, I don't think anyone would describe the Tevez saga as having been resolved easily or speedily. You dick.

"A fully fit Michael Owen would have scored that", sez Lawro in response to Owen spooning the ball over the bar from 3 yards

Ankle knack, so much to answer for

germany being managed by kyle maclachlan tonite i see.

Benitez: "I want to ask the Premier League why it was so difficult for Liverpool to sign Javier Mascherano, when we had to wait a long time for the paperwork, but it was so easy for Carlos Tevez to join Manchester United?"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6958993.stm

Well, firstly, it took you a fairly long time to sign Mascherano because the original deal that West Ham made was so dodgy that it was always going to attract attention, and because you had to get FIFA to agree to let you break their rule about a player not representing more than two clubs in a season. Secondly, I don't think anyone would describe the Tevez saga as having been resolved easily or speedily. You dick.

Oh come on, that's straight from the Alex Ferguson management handbook!

dear Real Madrid, pleeeeeez sell Heinze to Liverpool now, i wanna hear the sound of one Ferg exploding

funny you should say that!!

Evidence given to the arbitration panel is likely to prove embarrassing, however, after it was revealed that Heinze’s representatives tried to by-pass United’s block on the player moving to Liverpool by engineering an intermediate transfer to Crystal Palace. Under the proposal, Heinze would have been bought by Palace and sold on to Liverpool. It is understood that the bid was revealed in evidence given to the Premier League panel this week by Phil Alexander, the Palace chief executive.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article2311105.ece

Rafa's latest outburst finally confirms that he is just as bats as Fergie, Jose and Wenger, if still quite boring.

Bye bye Arjen Robben, you were great when you weren't cheating or injured.

i'm surprised you can remember that far back!

what's happened to robben?

Gone to Real.

As has Heinze

surprisingly tidy sum for him as well, although i suppose shaking real down for money is a piece of piss.

belletti in = giving up on alves? giving up on glen johnson, certainly.

re robben i mean. £8m for heinze isn't bad either though.

heinze means beans