yeah learning where "jipped" came from was a real "oh shit what have I been saying????" moment for me
another one was the term "Indian giver" once we got to studying more American history in 6th grade
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
tbh I never even associated the term 'jipped' (which I think is the more common spelling?) with gypsies!
― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:09 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah it comes from being short changed or tricked/fooled by gypsies. Right?
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
i've seen little chunks of it E but it's not really my kind of show plus i don't really think it helped cross-community relations tbh
― the smell of Whiney's cheap perfume (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
well, I learned something today
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
i accidentally once drank a friend's beer at a bar and he accused me of "irishing" him out of a pint.
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Dan - I had the same moment with Indian giver although I don't think I made that connection until much later (embarrassingly).
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Are you Irish, omar?
― beachville, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
― the smell of Whiney's cheap perfume (Noodle Vague), Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:12 AM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it obviously didn't. I had basically no knowledge that travelers/gypsies still existed so it was fascinating for me even though I realize it's total trash tv. Also, THE DRESSES omg.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
Then there's the case I mentioned on ilx of the dude who I knew in college who said "He jewed me out of $5!" and I instinctively punched him. He claimed that he never thought about the phrase?!?― mh, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:05 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― mh, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:05 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wait, did you punch him him in the shoulder like "oh you dick" or did you cold-cock him?
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
wtf?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
TBH I'd never heard of the racist connotations of "uppity" before this threadNever used the wordGet called it sometimes
― Dancin with Mr. D__ (Ówen P.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
Never really thought about it before but I do say things like "my foot's giving me jip". Hmm.
This page seems to think it's not from gypsy:
We’re not certain where it comes from, but the English Dialect Dictionary gives one sense of the word as “to arouse to greater exertions by means of some sudden, unexpected action”. That fits with the suggestion in the Oxford English Dictionary that it’s a contracted form of gee-up, a conventionalised version of the cry one utters to get a horse to move. Presumably the pain sense evolved through the excessive use of that unexpected action in persuading a person or animal to do one’s bidding.
xposts iatee's usage OTOH is almost certainly derived from gypsy...
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link
don't call it iatee's usage!
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
irished, tbf, is on-point because i would totally steal ur pint given a chance
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
Wait I still don't understand how/why "uppity" has facist connotations. Can someone explain?
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
i tried to do some sort of comeback about him being german but i couldn't think of anything that didn't involve accusing him of mass murder and also the point that he made was a fair one.
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
"uppity" has historical associations w/ blacks who 'didn't know their place'
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
tbh, there's a part of me that's always a little :/ at American ppl who get pissed at like irish/italian/french/german slurs because like, "there, there, white people still run the world, its ok"
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Beeps calls sitting cross-legged "criss-cross, applesauce". Back in my day, it was "Indian style".
And I still can't believe that some bars server "Irish Car Bombs" on St. Patrick's Day.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Light punch to the gut
― mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, now I understand, thought it meant the Irish were mean when that's obv. the Scots
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
That's "mean" in UK/Irish sense, not the US sense, which always sounds silly to me
haha my day too, which was like the 90s
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:18 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ARE YOU SHITTING ME?
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know people used "jew" as a verb until my sophomore year of college, when I was on a choir tour and our host's mother in Tupelo was telling us about how her daughter went up to NYC and argued with her landlord to get her rent reduced. I have never seen someone change the topic of conversation faster than our host did. (As a horrifying aside, two out of the four of us being hosted were Jewish.)
xp: he is not shitting you, E
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
I have never in my life heard that or known that before. I thought it just meant when people were snobby. I've definitely said and used uppity just to mean snobby people before. I mean it's not something I say often but I've definitely used it.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
Woah. That one is seriously blowing my mind. I had no idea!
i'm staggered you've never heard the phrase "uppity n____"
altho my introduction to the u word was
http://images.wikia.com/mrmen/images/f/fd/Mr._Uppity.jpg
― the smell of Whiney's cheap perfume (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
I just that it was a fancier way of saying stuck up. :/
I'm surprised so few people know about "uppity"
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, e, you can call a white person "uppity" and it still means snobby
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
well I think it can still be used in other contexts without being objectively offensive but probably needs to be handled delicately
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
ENBB, it does mean that as well, but really it's best avoiding the word altogether at this point.
― beachville, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
lol at that barrage of posts.
"uppity n____"
Nope. Never.
Woah. This is a very educational thread!
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
btw how the hell did I miss/forget this:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/rush-limbaugh-says-first-lady-was-booed-partly-because-nascar-fans-hate-her-uppityism/
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Use "uppish" instead.
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
eh uppity is a lot more innocuous than eg monkey, as in it has a clear and usable everyday meaning but can have racist connotations, it's not a 'racist' word tho
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I knew about "uppity" when I was growing up, and it was kind of understood that "this is a thing bad people say about minorities." Then, my freshman year of college, a girl actually said to me, "I don't mind black people, but I don't like when they get all uppity." I nearly shit my pants. True story.
― Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:18 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Criss-cross applesauce just sounds ridiculous to me. The first time I heard it I was like "You're sitting what now?"
Irish Car Bombs are pretty popular year round here in Boston. smdh.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
uppity 28 up, 94 down
a nickname for a man's penis
He had an uppity when he fell asleep in class.
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost Is the part that you almost shit in your pants true?
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
I can walk four blocks from my office and get Irish Car Bombs every day at that noted Irish establishment "Flannery's Pub" in downtown Cleveland.
xxxp No, that part's a lie. I actually *did* shit my pants.
― Famous porn scenes like "shake that bear" (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
"criss cross applesauce" is probably more offensive than indian style. if a teacher said that to my kid, i'd change school districts
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Well that's where they got the money from to make them in the first place, so fair enough
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
There are still biases against some "white" people though, Whiney! I grew up in an area that had a huge Italian immigration period around 1900 and still had a fairly entrenched Italian community -- Italian community center, festivals, kids in high school who had "proud to be Italian" t-shirts and all that shit. Not so much the Jersey Shore parody of it, but definitely from the same place, culturally.
To be fair the bias against that group was more rooted in the fact that some members of the community were complete assholes, the "Italians are better than everyone else" attitude is kind of an ugly personality flaw, and there seemed to be a pervasive bias against more recent Hispanic immigrants when their families were only a couple generations removed from migrants themselves.
OK, I admit it, I'm racist against Italians :(
― mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
comeback about him being german but i couldn't think of anything that didn't involve accusing him of mass murder
People do make comments about that ALL the fucking time and, OK, fair enough. It does get pretty annoying though when you realize how often people do it. You know what else was really annoying? When kids drew swastikas in my 5th grade year book because they thought it was "funny".
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
"hippie style" is pretty safe for that manner of sitting
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah tbf i'm not buying wgw's outlook on eg irish slurs tbph
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
if they knew what was up they would have drawn a German tourist wearing socks with sandals
x-post
― mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link