rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

Je55e's story is like the IRL version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0R3OjMcOqg

When I was a server in college I kept hearing a couple of my coworkers talk about the "Canadians" seated in their section, usually in a negative light. The first couple times I was genuinely confused, but didn't ask because I was new to the job and a little shy. Anyway, a couple days later one of these same guys came up to me and goes, "you're new, I had the hostess move that table of Canadians to your section, they don't tip for shit". Once I walked out to the floor I saw that it was an oh so charming code for "black people". Reason #1,434 why central Illinois sucks.

Cant say I have ever in my life heard the "itis" phrase, not once, would have had no clue what it meant, but *might* have at least inferred close to it if I'd ever seen that Chapelle Show skit, which I havent (never seen any of that show tbh)

I haven't seen that Clerks scene in forever. I'd forgotten that his grandmother called him that. And Wanda Sykes!

Besides my being dumb I offer as an explanation the fact that I grew up near the Canadian border in Minnesota and Montana and the first time I ever met a black person was when visiting pastor came to our church when I was 11 or 12.

jvc, people in NC said that too.

chapelle show was not a very good show just fyi

it was a very, very flawed show that occasionally had some of the best comedy ever on tv.

http://gasface.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/breast-milk.jpg

'one hot skit every ten episode average'

the unfunny things were so unfunny that it made me suspicious of the funny things

one to ten ratio seems about right

a friend was born in a very small and almost exclusively white/hispanic town, and i am told by her mother that upon first seeing a black person, in a supermarket at the approximate age of four, she shrieked, pointed and loudly asked "what's wrong with that lady?" plus exclamation points. her mom had to explain that there were black people. the lady in question was allegedly cool about it.

not sure i believe this, but it's freaky either way.

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

the difference is most ppl would change their behavior

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens

― frogbs

Wait - "uppity" what? Is this a joke or am I missing something here? idgi.

Wanda Sykes in that scene was prob the best part of Clerks 2. Or when Jay does the Buff Bill Goodby Horses dance. That was good too.

pussy troll was by some distance the highlight of clerks 2, come on now

I don't remember that at all. Let's be honest here - it was pretty awful.

yes, yes it was

I still don't get the thing where if you've never heard black people called monkeys, you're supposed to instinctively go "Waaait a minute, maybe I shouldn't say this, this person I'm talking to might take it as a racial insult." It seems a little... racist?

original title of and then there were none = ten little n-bombs. no lie! was published in the UK under that title until the late 70s.

Published initially in the states as Ten Little Indians! In order to avoid racism, you see.

I still don't get the thing where if you've never heard black people called monkeys, you're supposed to instinctively go "Waaait a minute, maybe I shouldn't say this, this person I'm talking to might take it as a racial insult."

otm, not being American I found out about this by accident just recently (and had never used it fwiw)

What?

You guys are being Randalls

pussy troll was by some distance the highlight of clerks 2, come on now

its pretty offensive to suggest that movie had any highlights.

I don't care what you guys say about Chapelle Show, I probably love some of the horrible material as much as anything.

The fake commericals: Rockapads. The one where Redman is on a jetski in the toilet advertising a toilet bowl cleaner. I admit it.

You guys are being Randalls

I'd probably be outraged, if I had any idea what you meant.

its pretty offensive to suggest that movie had any highlights.

its pretty offensive of you to not understand that rosario dawson will never not be a highlight, even in such a fan-servicing turdfest of a movie.

xp randall aka one of the two main protagonists of Clerks & Clerks II

Andrew: See most recent youtube in thread

I still don't get the thing where if you've never heard black people called monkeys, you're supposed to instinctively go "Waaait a minute, maybe I shouldn't say this, this person I'm talking to might take it as a racial insult." It seems a little... racist?

*facepalm*

You're not supposed to instinctively know, but when someone points it out to you the correct response is not "oh, well I never heard it that way growing up so I'm going to continue to say it"

you were looking for that "conversations that come up on ILX once a fortnight" thread, i believe

It certainly isn't an obscure or exclusively US thing, cf. soccerfootball fans throughout the ages throwing bananas onto the pitch, making monkey noises etc.

I guess I will reshare when I went out with a mixed race black/white girl and called her "really tan".

hahaha

xxx-post DJP on point as always

I call my kids monkeys. Because they look like monkeys. Because people look like monkeys. Because we're primates. And my son was born in year of the monkey. And I've definitely, as a separate issue, been aware of the unpleasant racial connotations of the word. And now I'm wondering how I'm going to talk to my son about it so he doesn't turn into a Randall. : \

You're not supposed to instinctively know, but when someone points it out to you the correct response is not "oh, well I never heard it that way growing up so I'm going to continue to say it"

Dude, I'm not saying that! I'm just surprised by eg Je55e describing himself for dumb for not knowing it beforehand. I have great respect for him not insisting on it in any way when called on it! Which I know shouldn't ideally be the sort of thing that gets you great respect, but if the internet has taught me anything it's that people = shit.

it's okay to call white people monkeys I think

lol @ australians

wait your kids are white right kkvg

More of a cultural and not race thing but I knew someone (ok, dated) someone who pulled out this faux-knowledge of Muslims and Islamic culture where she thought that the preferred nomenclature was "Islamic people" and saying "Muslims" was offensive or some sort of claptrap and I'm trying to explain that it is not what my past friends who have actually lived in that culture said and then I'm kind of waving and pointing at wikipedia and articles online and she's disagreeing because she knows and...

oh god, why do we torture ourselves like this?

i have no self-consciousness calling white people (cheeky) monkeys because it connotes a little bit differently for some reason

tbf djp i don't think anyone's advocated any such response

tho it would be kinda worth seeing the reaction

it's okay to call white people monkeys I think

"You cheeky monkey!" only works with Lancashire/Yorkshire accent

wait your kids are white right kkvg

― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:36 AM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

I call little kids monkeys all the time when they're being cute/silly. It's sort of my go-to pet name for kids, I think. I knew a black couple in college who had a baby together and the first time I met the baby I said "OMG what a cute little . . . " inside voice: don't say monkey, don't say monkey "bastard". The parents were not married and I'm not sure monkey wouldn't have been the less offensive choice in that situation.

Suggest "chap"

hahaha enbb

classic material

cute little dumpling maybe

It was an irl Larry David moment for sure.