I don't know any black ppl tbh
― tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
Never heard 'itis' either. I got a kindle for Christmas and the first (free) book I downloaded was a genteel war-time British murder mystery with the actual n-bomb in there clear as day, it properly took me aback. Lol Agatha Christie.
― kinder, Thursday, 19 January 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
Holy shit @ "itis."
I had ZERO clue.
I have used that word, but I'm pretty sure it started when I changed the words to the Happy Mondays song "Lazyitis."
I'm reviewing my 20s and 30s trying to remember if I've used that word in front of any black people b/c it's bad enough that I said it in my family.
― Je55e, Thursday, 19 January 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
A few years ago I waited tables w/ a black girl. One evening our boss made her come in for her shift despite having a bad cold. While we were waiting to be sat she was sniffling and hacking and looking really miserable, so to show sympathy, I said, "Aww, who's a sick monkey?" and for a minute she rallied enough to set me straight about racist connotations of certain terms.
I honest to God had no idea that I was saying something racially charged. My mom called me a monkey, a friend and I sometimes affectionately called each other monkeys, and just never occurred to me that it might not always be OK to say.
It turned out OK. I apologized till I almost puked and told her I was a fucking oblivious jackass, and she didn't hold it against me, but fuck, what a stupid blind spot.
― Je55e, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
the first (free) book I downloaded was a genteel war-time British murder mystery with the actual n-bomb in there clear as day, it properly took me aback. Lol Agatha Christie.
― kinder, Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
original title of and then there were none = ten little n-bombs. no lie! was published in the UK under that title until the late 70s.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
Je55e's story is like the IRL version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0R3OjMcOqg
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
When I was a server in college I kept hearing a couple of my coworkers talk about the "Canadians" seated in their section, usually in a negative light. The first couple times I was genuinely confused, but didn't ask because I was new to the job and a little shy. Anyway, a couple days later one of these same guys came up to me and goes, "you're new, I had the hostess move that table of Canadians to your section, they don't tip for shit". Once I walked out to the floor I saw that it was an oh so charming code for "black people". Reason #1,434 why central Illinois sucks.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link
Cant say I have ever in my life heard the "itis" phrase, not once, would have had no clue what it meant, but *might* have at least inferred close to it if I'd ever seen that Chapelle Show skit, which I havent (never seen any of that show tbh)
― thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't seen that Clerks scene in forever. I'd forgotten that his grandmother called him that. And Wanda Sykes!
Besides my being dumb I offer as an explanation the fact that I grew up near the Canadian border in Minnesota and Montana and the first time I ever met a black person was when visiting pastor came to our church when I was 11 or 12.
jvc, people in NC said that too.
― Je55e, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
chapelle show was not a very good show just fyi
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
it was a very, very flawed show that occasionally had some of the best comedy ever on tv.
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://gasface.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/breast-milk.jpg
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
'one hot skit every ten episode average'
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
the unfunny things were so unfunny that it made me suspicious of the funny things
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
one to ten ratio seems about right
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:46 (twelve years ago) link
a friend was born in a very small and almost exclusively white/hispanic town, and i am told by her mother that upon first seeing a black person, in a supermarket at the approximate age of four, she shrieked, pointed and loudly asked "what's wrong with that lady?" plus exclamation points. her mom had to explain that there were black people. the lady in question was allegedly cool about it.
not sure i believe this, but it's freaky either way.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i had no idea that "uppity" was racially charged at all, we've been using that word for years but hey it happens
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2012 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
the difference is most ppl would change their behavior
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 06:13 (twelve years ago) link
― frogbs
― buzza, Thursday, 19 January 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
Wait - "uppity" what? Is this a joke or am I missing something here? idgi.
Wanda Sykes in that scene was prob the best part of Clerks 2. Or when Jay does the Buff Bill Goodby Horses dance. That was good too.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
pussy troll was by some distance the highlight of clerks 2, come on now
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
I don't remember that at all. Let's be honest here - it was pretty awful.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
yes, yes it was
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
I still don't get the thing where if you've never heard black people called monkeys, you're supposed to instinctively go "Waaait a minute, maybe I shouldn't say this, this person I'm talking to might take it as a racial insult." It seems a little... racist?
Published initially in the states as Ten Little Indians! In order to avoid racism, you see.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
I still don't get the thing where if you've never heard black people called monkeys, you're supposed to instinctively go "Waaait a minute, maybe I shouldn't say this, this person I'm talking to might take it as a racial insult."
otm, not being American I found out about this by accident just recently (and had never used it fwiw)
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
What?
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:29 (twelve years ago) link
You guys are being Randalls
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
its pretty offensive to suggest that movie had any highlights.
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
I don't care what you guys say about Chapelle Show, I probably love some of the horrible material as much as anything.
The fake commericals: Rockapads. The one where Redman is on a jetski in the toilet advertising a toilet bowl cleaner. I admit it.
― mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
I'd probably be outraged, if I had any idea what you meant.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
its pretty offensive of you to not understand that rosario dawson will never not be a highlight, even in such a fan-servicing turdfest of a movie.
― Harvey Weewax (stevie), Thursday, 19 January 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
xp randall aka one of the two main protagonists of Clerks & Clerks II
Andrew: See most recent youtube in thread
― deltron the escape g.o.a.t. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 19 January 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
*facepalm*
You're not supposed to instinctively know, but when someone points it out to you the correct response is not "oh, well I never heard it that way growing up so I'm going to continue to say it"
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
you were looking for that "conversations that come up on ILX once a fortnight" thread, i believe
― the smell of Whiney's cheap perfume (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
It certainly isn't an obscure or exclusively US thing, cf. soccerfootball fans throughout the ages throwing bananas onto the pitch, making monkey noises etc.
― ledge, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I will reshare when I went out with a mixed race black/white girl and called her "really tan".
― mute the wife (bnw), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
xxx-post DJP on point as always
― mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
I call my kids monkeys. Because they look like monkeys. Because people look like monkeys. Because we're primates. And my son was born in year of the monkey. And I've definitely, as a separate issue, been aware of the unpleasant racial connotations of the word. And now I'm wondering how I'm going to talk to my son about it so he doesn't turn into a Randall. : \
― beachville, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
Dude, I'm not saying that! I'm just surprised by eg Je55e describing himself for dumb for not knowing it beforehand. I have great respect for him not insisting on it in any way when called on it! Which I know shouldn't ideally be the sort of thing that gets you great respect, but if the internet has taught me anything it's that people = shit.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
it's okay to call white people monkeys I think
― iatee, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ australians
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
wait your kids are white right kkvg
More of a cultural and not race thing but I knew someone (ok, dated) someone who pulled out this faux-knowledge of Muslims and Islamic culture where she thought that the preferred nomenclature was "Islamic people" and saying "Muslims" was offensive or some sort of claptrap and I'm trying to explain that it is not what my past friends who have actually lived in that culture said and then I'm kind of waving and pointing at wikipedia and articles online and she's disagreeing because she knows and...
oh god, why do we torture ourselves like this?
― mh, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
i have no self-consciousness calling white people (cheeky) monkeys because it connotes a little bit differently for some reason
― the smell of Whiney's cheap perfume (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
tbf djp i don't think anyone's advocated any such response
tho it would be kinda worth seeing the reaction
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
"You cheeky monkey!" only works with Lancashire/Yorkshire accent
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
― iatee, Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:36 AM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
I call little kids monkeys all the time when they're being cute/silly. It's sort of my go-to pet name for kids, I think. I knew a black couple in college who had a baby together and the first time I met the baby I said "OMG what a cute little . . . " inside voice: don't say monkey, don't say monkey "bastard". The parents were not married and I'm not sure monkey wouldn't have been the less offensive choice in that situation.
― ENBB, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link