Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

Avery Brooks, styling it up at conventions:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/AveryBrooksAtConvention_crop.jpg/524px-AveryBrooksAtConvention_crop.jpg

If they ever want to make another Blade movie where Blade's dad shows up (like Connery/Ford in Last Crusade), then they know who to call.

If any of you enjoy Star Trek novels, I highly recommend the Destiny Trilogy.

Two seasons of Star Trek all at once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS8OGMbj1kg

Amazing how many of those are close ups on someone going "whuh?"

this is like some acid flashback shit

In the future we will watch every television show this way.

/banaka

whoa

(gonna treat it as a bingo card drinking game - take a shot if I get a full row/column of the crew all beaming up/down / being shaken out of their seats / Shatner being shirtless)

It's awesome at the end when the theme tune kicks in, just slightly out of sync, 56 times simultaneously.

At about 2:35, in the bottom row, you see the Enterprise pass seamlessly from one pane to another!

this is amazing

the end credits part, specifically.

also dug the pre-end credits bit where you can watch 56 corny jokes being made at once.

like when Joan Collins' death destroys Captain Kirk?

hah, that was actually the only example of a trek episode ending with something other than a corny joke that I could think of but I'm sure there are others

"let's get the hell out of here"

"forget.... forget..."

I got 3 of the photobook graphic novel things when they were around. I assume that mint copies would be worth something these days. anybody know?
Though these have sat on a shelf for about 30 years so are probably a bit yellowed

& maybe they were very heavily mass produced, just seen the prices Amazon has for them

the gold key ones? i think the guide to use is overstreet in terms of what you can expect to pay for one, but i'm not sure it will reflect how much you can get for it.

Fucking hell, I watched about ten minutes of the 56 episode Star Trek blipvert at full screen and I feel like I inherited Roky Erickson's brain.

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So Leonard Nimoy posted this to his FB last night:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601232_433501863336665_925751118_n.jpg

TOS is pretty damn classic. The others may be good but the 60's one is just so stylish and cool and fun.

I flipped out over TOS a few years ago after HATING it as a child. I've watched every episode and still tune in every Saturday night to watch the reruns on METV (it's Memorable Entertainment Television!). I've just started season one of TNG (which I also HATED as a child) and I am loving it, too. The first season is extremely faithful to the memory of TOS, i think. I know that it will eventually become less so, though.

Oh and that picture of Spock and Kirk is something else.

Jeff and I are making our way through TOS and it is challenging. It's just so damn sexist. But as a TNG/DS9/VOY superfan, I feel compelled to make sure I've seen all the originals, too.

Always found the sense of camaraderie in TOS rather touching. Never got madly into anything after. I'll happily watch an episode of Next Gen, but I don't love it. Sorry to get snobby, but without the original iconic characters I'd rather read a good Space Opera novel.

Next Gen = office in space

it's okay and there are some very good episodes but the design/characters/pacing are all less engaging than TOS imho

Oh and that picture of Spock and Kirk is something else.

Putting this here in case someone hasn't seen it:

TNG Season 8
@TNG_S8
Plots from the unaired 8th season of Star Trek: The Next Generation
http://twitter.com/#!/TNG_S8

Always found the sense of camaraderie in TOS rather touching. Never got madly into anything after. I'll happily watch an episode of Next Gen, but I don't love it. Sorry to get snobby, but without the original iconic characters I'd rather read a good Space Opera novel.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, June 18, 2012 8:19 PM (1 hour ago

back in the '70s david gerrold (who wrote the original 'tribbles' episode wrote something about all the things wrong -- logically, dramatically, and otherwise -- with the original series. all the way from things like 'too many episodes that end with fistfights' to 'the captain shouldn't be beaming down with the away team.' they 'fixed' all those things in TNG, which explains all those episodes where basically nothing happens and picard solves everything in the last 30 seconds by glaring indignantly at a screen.

Sometimes I don't even think we are watching the same series.

picard solves everything in the last 30 seconds by glaring indignantly at a screen.

Yes, this is awesome.

It's how I solve most of MY life's problems.

that foto is shit hot

According to that Dave Gerrold book, every episode is awful except the one that he wrote

It's how I solve most of MY life's problems.

Have Picard glare indignantly at them? Because I would pay for that problem solving service.

Replace "David Gerrold" with "Harlan Ellison," still true!

My first venture onto this thread: to answer the c/d as best I can. This series has given great pleasure to more people than Pamplamoose ever will. Somehow, this does not answer the question adequately. Perhaps, if I compared it to I Dream of Jeannie things would become clearer?

The awesomeness of Gene Rodenberry making TOS exist on 60's tv for so long cancels out any qualms I have wrt to Kirk's boneriffic explorations of other lifeforms. It's the frakking bomb, and I still get a lot of joy out of revisiting old episodes. And the remastered ones they were running on TBS looked fkning cool as hell.

Seems appropriate to post this here

http://io9.com/5919079/watch-an-animated-reinterpretation-of-the-orignal-star-trek-intro

TNG is as adorable with its (stilted, talky) 90s idealism as TOS is with its (imperialistic, sexist) 60s idealism; i love watching both of them as the most optimistic dreams their respective cultures could muster. but when it comes down to it, if i'm watching a tv show about spaceships i'd rather have golden-age-sf Concepts featuring a fixed set of lovable cardboard adventurers than tv writers' character development. personal choice obv.

anyway one of my favorite kirk-being-o_O moments is in the "grups" episode where he is openly flirting with a 12-year-old and yeoman rand (i think it's yeoman rand?) says something about what's he doing with that girl and spock says "THAT 'GIRL' IS OVER THREE HUNDRED YEARS OLDER THAN YOU, YEOMAN. THINK ABOUT IT."

(i know TNG starts in 87 but it feels so 90s. i started in 1987 too and i feel pretty 90s.)

Kirk is just the man.

difficult listening hour otm, I like TNG in theory, but definitely its 90's datedness is less appealing than the 60's datedness of TOS.

Kinda think 60's have passed through so many retro phases and re-appropriations that more or less anything genuinely of that time just has a classic grace to it.

I read one Robert Anton Wilson book where he went on about how cool Spock was, that he was a modern version of the god Pan, subversively revealing occult secrets through groovy sci-fi TV trappings. Or something.

haha that's cool

how cool is the episode where the greek gods turn out to be aliens. and they've all committed suicide from lack of worship. just let themselves break apart and drift away on the wind. how cool is that.

not that i want for a second to diminish the awesomeness of "resistance is futile... number one." i could watch that right now.