2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

^much lolz thx

Debate #79 tonight. Who will bring the noise and the jokes now that Huntsman's gone?

michelleinbklyn Michelle Goldberg
Maybe I put too much faith in him, but I'm don't think Obama would ever use "Eye of the Tiger" as his intro music. #Santorum

Survivor hatred hurts us all as Americans.

Tim Wise wrote a bit about something that's bothered the shit out of me due to random Facebook posts appearing on my news feed; it's about ostensibly leftie-leaning folks posting about Ron Paul in glowing terms:

http://www.timwise.org/2012/01/of-broken-clocks-presidential-candidates-and-the-confusion-of-certain-white-liberals/

Yessir, legal weed and an end to the TSA: enough to make some supposed leftists ignore everything else Ron Paul has ever said, and ignore the fundamental incompatibility of Ayn Randian thinking with anything remotely resembling a progressive or even humane worldview. And this is so, even though he wouldn’t actually have the authority to end the TSA as president, a slight glitch that is conveniently ignored by those who are desperate to once again be able to take large bottles of shaving gel onto airplanes in the name of “liberty.”

I want those of you who are seriously singing Paul’s praises, while calling yourself progressive or left to ask what it signifies — not about Ron Paul, but about you — that you can look the rest of us in the eye, your political colleagues and allies, and say, in effect, “Well, he might be a little racist, but…

You do have to ignore a lot of Ron Paul's actual actions and past to think his lip service to civil liberties trumps his faults/

he wants to pull troops out of the Middle East, right? smart people: would that increase or decrease the amount of bloodshed? that should be taken into consideration, right?

rooting for newt to have his inevitable on-air meltdown in tonight's debate

I continue to feel the same--I want something in return for all the time I've invested in this. Gingrich keeps promising "Armageddon," and then, come debate time (and just like Def Leppard), he gives you nerf ballads.

I want something in return for all the time I've invested in this

u mad

As hell--and I'm not going to take it anymore.

so who do you think stephen harper is rooting for

Good question. It's got to be Romney--they're like twins. (On a related note, I wonder if Rob Ford has enlisted Chris Christie in his new cause.)

In Huntsman's honor, I'm playing "Dropout Boogie" by Capt. Beefheart.

haha

If anyone has a working link, let me know. All I get is a spinning circle on Fox News.

If you were having the same trouble I was, this works:

http://graphics.wsj.com/documents/WSJ_GOP_PRIMARY_2012/livecoverage/index.php

If you're not watching because you've sensibly given up on these things, this one's actually pretty lively so far.

All I get is a spinning circle on Fox News.

Please stick to watching this for the next 9-1/2 months, it will reap untold benefits for us both.

No meltdown for Newt--he's mostly being ignored. But he has gone off the rails. He just used his time to tell a long story about an 11-year-old who started a donut company.

recently promoted from janitor, i take it

I wonder what the "absurd" amount is that NYC janitors are paid because of the union.

Seriously: sharp exchange between Juan Williams and Gingrich about food stamps, followed by crowd getting to its feet and cheering, was disheartening.

man things are that rough for juan williams?

Mitt was nice enough to walk over and give him a handful of twenties.

Listening on the radio and I can really hear the audience. Someone hollered out something when one of the moderators mentioned that Romney's father was born in Mexico.

Think someone was also just yelling "Go home!" at Ron Paul.

Paul had to stop two or three times during his last answer, the booing was so vociferous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1mJDdPyluM

Over. I guess I'll look in on the spinning circle for a while.

She's back!

Putting "dumb" in quotes here makes her sound even dumber.

she really really really hates andrew sullivan

she's not alone in the blogosphere

Andrew Sullivan "annoys" her

they deserve each other imho

During a Fox News segment on Sullivan's article on Monday, the network blurred out Sullivan's name when showing the Newsweek cover.

wtf

conservative liking Obama make Fox viewers' brains explode

oh, the Sullivan article has started gay civil wars on some blogs, liberal on lefty

to conservatives, sullivan is very much not one. that was obviously an act of disrespect

lol you make them sound like mobsters

liberal on lefty

gay lib porn

Looks like Romney may now give in re releasing his taxes now, but here's the reason he does not want to--his rate based largely on the wonderful fact that investment income gets taxed lower than earned income:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/romney-to-release-tax-returns-estimates-rate-at-about-15-percent/2012/01/17/gIQALiQf5P_blog.html

What’s the effective rate I’ve been paying? It’s probably closer to the 15 percent rate than anything,” Romney, a GOP presidential candidate, said. “My last 10 years, I’ve — my income comes overwhelmingly from some investments made in the past, whether ordinary income or earned annually. I got a little bit of income from my book, but I gave that all away. And then I get speaker’s fees from time to time, but not very much.”

Rick Perry, superstar:

The crowd of about 30 attendees seemed satisfied with his pro-military pitch...

Oh and his appeal on the Virginia decision was denied.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barack-obama-the-food-stamp-president/2011/12/07/gIQAzTdQdO_blog.html

earlier discussion of this (that may have been discussed upthread)

Superb Rick Perlstein column on George and Williard Romney. I didn't know this about George:

His calling card was his shocking authenticity; his courage in sticking to his positions without fear or favor was extraordinary. In January of 1964, for example, the second-year governor received a letter (downloadable here) from a member of the top Mormon governing body reminding him of the "teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith" that "the Lord had placed the curse upon the Negro." Drop your support for the 1964 civil rights bill, the elder warned, arguing that God might literally strike Romney dead for his apostasy: "I just don't think we can get around the Lord's position in relation to the Negro without punishment for our acts," the letter said. Romney only redoubled his commitment – leading a march the next year down the center of Detroit in solidarity with Martin Luther King's martyrs for voting rights' in Selma, Alabama. In 1966, the Republican Party staked its electoral fortunes on opposing open housing for blacks. Romney begged them, unsuccessfully, not to. "This fellow really means it," an amazed Southern Republican said when Romney toured Dixie pushing civil rights in his presidential campaign; after America's worst riot broke out in Detroit under his watch, the governor said that America could respond with a crackdown on law and order – "but our system would become little better than a police state."

i know, romney sr. floats thru nixonland like a bizarre, unbelievable ghost

I don't remember reading about his liberalism in there but I probably missed it.

most often he gets lumped in as a second after rockefeller as the Last of the GOP Liberals

yeah I don't remember that being covered at all xp