Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

I always find it weird when guys like Silva or Torres (pre-Liverpool) get linked all around for ages and nothing much happens, then finally do move somewhere and are just brilliant from day one. It's like: what were you all waiting for?

i dont rly like mata that much

there were certainly 'question marks about' silva and torres

silva was the usual too small blah

torres was his iffy finishing, especially in his final season when he scored 10 league goals and failed to combine at all with aguero

in 2005, 2006 he would have cost rather more

It's like: what were you all waiting for?

I sometimes find that players sometimes just fit with one team better than another. Is it camaraderie? Position? Complementary skill sets w/other players? Relationship to coach/staff? Pay as incentive? Loyalty as incentive? Team momentum? A hodge-podge of all of these?

yeah, and also history is littered with many many more examples of players that were brilliant for one club and a disaster afterwards than players that were consistently brilliant for several clubs

i dont rly like mata that much

― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:42 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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i know he is being played out of position, in a lame duck of a team but ????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaNDKK_HGxY

I was at White Hart Lane.

Tottenham were not great. But Everton didn't seem to have a shot on target in the whole game.

It was very anti-climactic for what was, at the same time, understood by everyone as a big 3 points.

I believe that Adebayor has added something, but minute by minute he doesn't seem to add much - his control and touch are often remarkably bad for a "top, top player".

Dawson seemed like possibly our best performer, and a reason why EFC didn't get anywhere.

Silva wasn't really an instant hit. He was obviously talented from day one but it took him most of a season to really bed down and become influential. Same happened with Modric. I'm not sure Silva would have been given that time under Rafa, who had a tendency to ship players out after a season.

But yes, Mancini has been remarkably good in the transfer market, if indeed it his his doing. Think Jerome Boateng was the only real misfire?

hi pinefox

I think we were good in a very untottenham way- central core untroubled, friedel without a save to make, good possession without overextending.

Agree with you on adebayor in individual moments at times, but it's undeniable that he holds the ball up and allows the attacking midfield players space to an extent that defoe never could and crouch never did, and he's still good enough both in the air and to feet to not allow centre halves too much ease over 90 mins.

Dawson was excellent!

Nasri and Savic haven't impressed. Who bought Adam Johnson?

Kolarov cost 19m, and he's a bit shit (the odd free-kick aside). Jury's out on Nasri

boateng was a pretty good performer imo, not quite sure why he was shipped out- didn't offer enough going fwd maybe

Johnson was a Hughes purchase

boateng had that awkward young defender thing going imo where he obviously has the talent but needed to learn from mistakes first before he could be considered rlly good. and city weren't looking for a player who needed to learn what not to do in their first team. its kinda the same with johnson/richards but they help with their quota of homegrown players so they stay while boateng left.

Johnson should be pushing on at this stage. Thought he was younger than 24

savic early days, johnson a v good squad player and maybe more, kolarov isn't rly a weak link unless you're being harsh

Kolarov cost 19m

Blimey

i like kolarov. well, i keep forgetting he exists but that is because he is good at defending in a way where you dont notice him iykwim

Dzeko hasn't exactly set the world alight either

Kolarov is not a good defender. He's terrible

I don't think he's a bad player, not worth 19m though

dzeko, johnson are liable to criticism individualky for the way mancini uses them, i mean when the team played around dzeko early this season he was unwithfuckable

The other thing about Adebayor is how many goals he makes for other players - he gets so many more assists than last year's strikers, occasional Crouch knockdown for VDV notwithstanding. All of our attacking players benefit from him being in the team.

I keep forgetting that Man City even signed Nasri. Given he's managed half a season of decent play in several years in England, Wenger must be pissing himself laughing at that one.

thank fuck Utd didn't sign him, even with our midfield. Just seems like a spineless character

Arsenal player, innit

Dzeko and Aguero just haven't really gelled have they? I suppose he's got a bit of Berbatov problem in that he slows the attack down, but when Balotelli's out City suddenly look a bit short on options there, although Aguero is worth three of yr jobbing Prem strikers at least.

Johnson was a great signing for City two years ago but they've outgrown him. He'd improve most Premiership teams from Chelsea down.

he improves them when they need a wide right player, which seems seldom enough maybe?

he'd be a great option for spurs as cover/rival for lennon, if we were to sell one or two of our squad midfielders

Johnson screams mid-table to me

not as a 6m squad player he doesn't

i seem him more as a big fish in a small pond type

He'd be good at Newcastle, maybe even Liverpool.

Chelsea don't really have any half-decent right-sided option, it's one of the things that's wrong with their squad. You need to at least have the option of playing someone with a bit of natural width there if the occasion demands it.

I'd fucking love Johnson at Arsenal but wing forwards are our most wanting position atm.

Oxlade-Chamberlain is going to be better than Johnson

Heh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercenary#See_also

AOC most probably will but for the next two years, post-Arsh pre-AOC, it would be nice to have a talented mercenary, as JM kindly puts it.

Would love to see Boba Fett in midfield.

or tony blair

midminefield maybe

Right wing obv.

Follows oil money instead of his heart.

JOHN Terry has mysteriously remortgaged his mansion for a fourth time — taking his home loan to a massive £4.65MILLION.

Land Registry records show the England skipper, 31, who has a history of gambling, did the deal last June.

The £170,000-a-week Chelsea captain purchased the property in Oxshott, Surrey, with the Queen's banker Coutts for £2.25million in July 2003, according to publicly available records.

He remortgaged with Northern Rock 12 months later, then again with Coutts in March 2006 and yet again in 2009 before last June's latest remortgage for £4.65million, Land Registry figures show.

That took the soccer star's home loan to more than TWICE the value of his mansion when he bought it.

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Must have put it all on blind.

Was gonna say, looks like his finances are no longer in the blind

national hero

other thing about adebayor, he hasn't scored any with his head. in fact i can't remember the last time spurs scored with a header.

Bale vs Wigan? I don't know. Seems a while ago.

we don't cross high nor early