europe!
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:32 (fourteen years ago)
Looking forward to Romney's attack ads of Obama morphing into a topological map of Europe.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:41 (fourteen years ago)
Phrase used in Romney speech: "The bitter politics of ENVY."
― timellison, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
Just let me know when this is declared "the most important election of our lives."
yeah I know you guys aren't major deluded Dem hoes, with maybe one exception.
ayo morbs have you ever been to a 'red' state?
I went to Georgia twice in 2010, as well as Alabama. (And had barbecue in Lockhart, Texas.) I like how the really red ones here are brown:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:58 (fourteen years ago)
haha deep santorum country
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 02:59 (fourteen years ago)
disappointed that perry is beating roemer
also that santorum's color on google isn't brown this time
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 03:59 (fourteen years ago)
I know who I would vote for in NH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFXXAuDK1Ao
― der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 04:53 (fourteen years ago)
Pretty clear he's just another shill for the corporate gigivopology.
― questino (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 09:01 (fourteen years ago)
anyhoo, I'm glad we have some socialist candidates for president, if only for another week or two.
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/10/romney_rivals_all_become_socialists_to_horror_of_conservatives/singleton/
(like p4reene calling BS on the 'firing ppl' outrage, too)
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 12:52 (fourteen years ago)
i missed this, from a couple days ago
It's one that I don't think we should be using as Republicans, "middle class." There are no classes in America. We are a country that don't allow for titles. We don't put people in classes. There may be middle-income people, but the idea that somehow or another we're going to buy into the class-warfare arguments of Barack Obama is something that should not be part of the Republican lexicon. That's their job -- divide, separate, put one group against another. That's not the language that I'll use as president. I'll use the language of bringing people together.
― goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
santorum, btw
I wonder if he pulled that out of his ass or if it's something we're gonna be hearing in the future.
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)
gonna guess #1
daniel larison on why the gop contest has turned out the way it has:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/2012/01/10/romneys-dreadful-inevitability-how-did-it-come-to-this/
The delusion that 2012 was supposed to represent “vindication” for the conservative movement helps explain why conservatives didn’t settle on a single candidate much earlier and stick with him. Because of the entirely unearned 2010 midterm victory, many conservatives seem to have concluded that 2008 was an aberration, and because of the slow recovery there has been overconfidence about Republican prospects in the fall.
That lowered the bar considerably as far as the quality of the presidential candidates was concerned. Some of these underqualified candidates joined the race in the belief that 2012 was bound to be a Republican victory, and for that reason they didn’t want to “waste” that victory on an insufficiently pure candidate such as Romney. Because of this, candidates had a much higher ideological standard to meet. Flawed and compromised candidates might have been all right back in 2007 at the nadir of the Bush era, but not now. As a result, none of the declared candidates with any of the necessary experience could measure up, and those that could measure up were woefully unprepared for the office.
The higher expectations of activists and pundits allowed the fantasy of additional candidates to linger for months and months (and it still hasn’t been snuffed out), which delayed the consolidation of the conservative vote behind one or two of the declared candidates. On the whole, the fantasy candidates put forward by pundits are just as underqualified as some of the flops, or they have just as much baggage as the flawed candidates, and their entry into the race would simply compound the problem that conservatives have, which is that they have too many choices and no way to reach consensus on any one of them. At the same time, Romney’s health care record was widely perceived as a major or possibly fatal liability for his candidacy, but when it came time for voters to register their views it evidently wasn’t nearly as damaging as almost everyone believed. Conservatives did not rally behind any one candidate to oppose Romney months ago because I think many of them expected Romney to falter or implode long before this, so they thought they had the luxury of time to choose from among the alternatives. Romney didn’t implode, and conservatives frittered away valuable time on various long-shot and incompetent candidates. Because they couldn’t really believe that Romney would ever prevail, most anti-Romney conservatives didn’t do what would have been required to stop him from winning the nomination.
ie. the wrong people thought it would be easy and the stronger people knew it would be hard. pretty perceptive imo
― goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
yeah that seems pretty otm
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
back in 2007 at the nadir of the Bush era
The nadir of the Bush era came during his last months in office, late 2008, when Lehmann Bros. collapsed, soon followed by AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, GM, and roughly $30 trillion vanished in a couple of months. It was a culmination, kind of like reaching the final circle of hell in the Inferno.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)
The pre-nadir of the Bush era when they were running to become candidates in 2008.
― Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)
he means that 2007 was when the republican candidates for the 2008 election were getting started
― goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
― goole, Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:41 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah the other thing is imo the gops strongest candidates r prob siting on the sideline not wanting to run against an imcumbent, another case of smart people knowing this was gonna be harder than it looked
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
who even are 'the strongest candidates' tho? I feel like the gop's so deep in the crazyhole that there's a. nobody that can appeal to the whole partyb. nobody that's gonna have a CV that's attractive both to the base and the public at large
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
I mean when christie is your ace in the hole...
any of their non-texan governors
― goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)
Speaking of which, other than get elected, make speeches and look presentable, what has Senator Rubio actually accomplished in the past couple of years?
― Aimless, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
a. hasn't had a sex scandal
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)
b. hasn't had a financial scandal
c. looks presentable oh wait
he has presumably helped block the appointment of communist judges and bureaucrats -- what else do you want?
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:12 (fourteen years ago)
― iatee, Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:05 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol yeah its sort of just an assumption that there must be someone better out there
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
and im not talking abt christie!
remember when 'the media' was talking about whether chris christie was 'too fat' to be president and whether it 'was ok' to talk about that anyway.
good times.
― goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)
too big to fail
― buzza, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:17 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, that sounds about right. It looks like the Republicans for some reason thought "Hey, beating up your candidates for being not hewing to your principles looks like a blast! Why have we been letting the Democrats hog this fun?"
The problems being that a) principled is not a good look for Republicans and b) it's really not something they've been selecting for.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
being
I think 'one of those other governors' woulda just been another pawlenty. I mean it depends who we're talking about obv, but I think the way the ideological lines are drawn today make it just impossible for someone to have their cake and eat it too (other than christie obv.)
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)
is it just me but once christie decided to not run did he just pack on another 100 lbs?? at that event with romney last week he looked way bigger.
― buzza, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
Look, there was an awful lot of nadir going around when Bush was in office - and some if it in Obama's term.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)
Read last week's New Yorker story.
okay, so he's gotten elected, made speeches, looked presentable and read the New Yorker; what else?
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
(obama joke goes here)
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
Laughed hard enough to spit lemonade from his nose.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
If that's a qualification then Gallagher would have long been dictator for life.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
Listen, being a tolerably literate Florida Republican is an achievement.
― Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:27 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
Oh, look, Romney showed interest in marching at a gay rights parade in 2002.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)
innnnnnnnnnteresting (as Bugs Bunny wd say)
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)
Parade-curious
― i couldn't adjust the food knobs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
"Should I march in the front or the back?"
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
That's not going to hurt him so much in a general election
― Do you know what the secret of comity is? (Michael White), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)
It might hurt a little if he marched in front.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)
base enthusiasm matters
― iatee, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)