Kenny Dalglish Won't Be Delivering the Module: English Premiership 2011-12

know irl that is. could be they're just the loudest and proudest for some reason though.

I thought up there was Liverpool country?

yeah, liverpool is probably more popular overall but more so among the older generation i'd say.

Hughes in, Bent top target (huh?)

I know this Villa team are bad but surely they aren't that bad?

McLeish, innit. Big haddy.

If Bent does leave, surely it'll be to Liverpool?

Though thinking about it, is a return to Spurs at all feasible?

Can we please not sign any more English strikers.

^^^ Cosign.

Given that Redknapp sold Bent I can't see him going in for him again, and I don't think he's the player we want if Adebayor gets injured. Don't think he'd suit the way we play now, and I'm not sure Bent would want to go back himself.

Can see Newcastle going in for Bent if they have to sell Ba in the transfer window.

Sunderland need a striker

mark hughes will prolly sign bent

oh i should learn to read

newcastle, yeah

He doesn't rly suit a passing/possession team, so spurs/arsenal out, not sure lfc is any fit, utd intriguing but no point they've already got three good strikers and rooney, chelsea play too high and compressed.

Villa a good fit for him, personnel-wise, mcleish notwithcunting

This is moot as Villa have already paid insane money for him and will only sell if someone offers even more insane money, and by the time you're in that territory you can probably get a much better forward than Darren Bent.

that has always been true, and yet

Btw when I said no-one cared about the premiership, I obviously was talking about in terms of award giving and not in terms of popularity. It is like comedies come Oscar season. Doesn't mean people haven't spent all year talking quoting jokes when Daniel Day Lewis ends up winning Best Actor.

I was wondering: when was the last time the best player in the world (the actual one) was playing in the English league?

Ronaldo doesn't qualify?

I know this has been done on the 'players of the 00s' thread but the case for Henry c. 2003 is pretty strong.

Yeah Ronaldo was head and shoulders above the pack for two years there.

both cases p strong, as is case for keane and or vieira were dm position ever to be counted, or stephen carr if rb were in the running

xp if you mean ronaldo was aller than messi, then yeah sure, otherwise he was in the mix don't push it

I don't think Vieira or Keane could ever be picked because of Fatty Ronaldo and Zizou playing at the same time. Before that... Lineker?

Paul McGrath

gazza since lineker

Peter Reid unlucky to play in the Platini/Maradona era.

on the real though...Schmeichel

prob

Was Gazzaq the best in the world while in England though? Surely Maradona/Baresi/van Basten was better than him in '90.

i.e. maybe when he went to italy? i dunno much about his time there other than comedy boobs.

Otm xp.. I discount the British-based players as a matter of course, but you can definitely make a case for Henry (but then Ronnie) and Ronaldo (but then Messi). Even shearer (but then Ronaldo). It's slim pickings for thirty years' watching though.

1991-93 he might have a shout?

henry and c ronaldo probably played better than anyone for a season and ronaldo was probably the actual best player in 07/08 too, whereas henry probably never was (zidane and ronaldo were still brilliant when they wanted to be until 2004 or so, when ronaldinho took over)

Players in England to have won the Ballon d'Or:

2001 Michael Owen
1968 Best
1966 Charlton
1964 Law
1956 Matthews

shearer was never remotely close i mean in 91/93 there was van basten (just), laudrup, romario, matthaus, baggio, stoichkov, gullit, rijkaard, hagi, maldini, baresi, abedi pele, butragueño, mancini, stojkovic....

english football is probably more interesting now than it was during the 05-09 peak

Gazza was famously injured most of 91-93, if that's serious. Best player in that period was ... maybe Baggio? More likely one of the Milan or possibly Marseille sides of the time. Or Koeman, jeez they were great days.

koeman? a decent centre-back who could take a shot from long-range.

Not insignificant talents. He could roam and pass a bit too iirc. He was no Sammer though, it's true.

english football is probably more interesting now

More contenders for the top spots?

Gazza was famously injured most of 91-93, if that's serious

pls

my mistake, I always have you down as some sort of whippersnapper

Messi was too young, often injured during peak Ronaldo at Utd. Ronaldo, Henry starting to wind down, Kaka more of a shout. Only once they sorted Messi's fitness (they still tend to rest him like once every six games) did he overtake.

Ronaldinho*, Henry

yeah it gets p incestuous and murky from undisputed ronaldinho to undisputed messi, and that's not a bad thing- as nakh says the golden days btwn peak maradona and - i dunno who the next 'undisputed might even be? say zidane?- had an eclectic mix of contenders in every position you could wish for

i mean for a minute there in 02 ilx would no doubt have polled pablo aimar as a genuine top 3 player

Stoichkov v. Baggio for the mid 90s like Ronnie v. Henry for the mid 00s surely

i mean for a minute there in 02 ilx would no doubt have polled pablo aimar as a genuine top 3 player

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he fucking destroyed us in europe but ayala was the star of that team

stoichkov, if you were to v him v anyone, would prob be best v'd against hagi iirc?