it hinted at a larger truth
this, in every campaign "analysis" or color piece x1000000 for the next 10 months
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 7 January 2012 23:53 (fourteen years ago)
i don't know shit about huntsman but you gotta like that video
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 7 January 2012 23:56 (fourteen years ago)
Last minute prep:
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/files/2012/01/RomneyMcCain.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 8 January 2012 01:23 (fourteen years ago)
"Remember: not 'Newt' or 'Rick' or 'Ron'--'that one.'"
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 01:29 (fourteen years ago)
Absolutely, totally, fundamentally, not bad so far. Romney must love these guys sniping at each other but just barely at him. My favourite moment so far was the look of complete indignation and confusion on Perry's face when Paul said, "You keep calling me a libertarian, Rick..." Don't forget, Governor--two Ricks up there.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:35 (fourteen years ago)
question for process experts here - I know from when my stepdad used to run for Congress every four years that in California if you get a certain % of total votes, you qualify (or used to) to receive some kind of funding from the state. is there anything like that at the federal level, some sort of "below x percentage, no funding"? this would sort of explain ridiculous fighting between candidates who're nowhere near getting the nomination
yer party needs 5% of the campaign vote to get federal funds the next election but that doesn't affect anybody running for the republican nomination and would only be relevant if one of these dudes was planning a nader-esque multiple year 3rd party run
― iatee, Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:46 (fourteen years ago)
er 'campaign vote' should just be uh 'national vote'
santorum just claimed we don't have classes in america
"well, maybe the middle income people"
― your pain is probably equal (Z S), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:29 (fourteen years ago)
"And if you don't like middle-income people, let's call them middle-Earth people."
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:36 (fourteen years ago)
I guess everyone else just gave up. At 10:27--actually made note of the time--Santorum launched a fairly tepid attack at Romney. Virtually nothing from Gingrich. No one burned the roof. No one came close. Tomorrow morning, we'll do it again.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:48 (fourteen years ago)
wait was there another debate tonight? I completely burned out on the debates, like 18-years-old-and-there's-a-new-flavor-of-Doritos burned out, they'd have to do it gladiator style to make me actually watch another one
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:51 (fourteen years ago)
might be worth it for gingrich, idk
― iatee, Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:54 (fourteen years ago)
oh wait it already happened and clemenza watched it and that didn't happen nvm
― iatee, Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:55 (fourteen years ago)
I feel like I know so much about gingrich after reading two profiles on him
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:55 (fourteen years ago)
I feel like one of those people the FBI hires to profile serial killers based on cut up magazine pages left at a crime scene, I think I have a good handle on newt
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:56 (fourteen years ago)
he is probably a fucking lunatic
I'm so stumped by Gingrich's complete abdication tonight. Maybe he lost nerve, maybe he thought better of it, maybe it's just too difficult to go after anyone when there are six people up there. Only time he got really angry was when Paul called him on his lack of military service.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:58 (fourteen years ago)
well it's gotta be exhausting straight hating on literally all your peers 24 hours a day
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:04 (fourteen years ago)
maybe he realized he could piss of liberals more by not attacking romney and making them watch the debate anyway
― iatee, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:05 (fourteen years ago)
he's like 5 steps ahead of us
― iatee, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:06 (fourteen years ago)
Mission accomplished...Sullivan just reminded me of one of the funniest lines of the night: Perry said that Iran will be back in Iraq now "literally at the speed of light." I'm really going to miss him.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:08 (fourteen years ago)
xp lol otm Newt's central goal is to anger the maximum # of people per gesture or non-gesture
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:09 (fourteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/romneybot.jpg
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:10 (fourteen years ago)
Josh Marshall: "The entire evening read like the other candidates are either resigned to Romney's expanding lead or were simply unaware of it." My guess: four resigned, one unaware.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:12 (fourteen years ago)
The "Romney won the debate because he wasn't knocked out" analysis doesn't sit right. His answers are defensive even when he's not being attacked. And that exchange with Stephanopolous about the contraception issue was extremely awkward. Whether or not people noticed that he didn't answer the question after being asked at least four times, who knows?
Huntsman had a better night. (Santorum, fwiw, did not.)
― timellison, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:39 (fourteen years ago)
When Stephanopoulos got onto contraception, I knew it was theoretically a legitimate question, I knew it tied into Roe vs. Wade, and I knew it was the kind of question that forces Republicans to carry out their beliefs to their logical conclusions. And Romney was definitely ducking. But in all honesty, I shared Romney's exasperation. To me, it wasn't all that different from Republicans deflecting the gay-marriage question with all sorts of nonsensical things that just aren't going to happen.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:51 (fourteen years ago)
Romney did look stupid not knowing the Supreme Court precedent, though.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:52 (fourteen years ago)
the major contraception case was griswold v connecticut
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:57 (fourteen years ago)
Meanwhile in lala land:
Being willing to push back against the MSM with the right amount of disdain is a delicate balancing act, easily overdone. But it is what Romney did with the astonishing exchange with George Stephanopoulos on contraception, and when George doubled and then tripled down on the inanity, not only did the audience boo the former Clinton front-man, the nation groaned, and Romney deftly hammered him again and again. If it was a fight it would have been stopped, and the exchange seemed to have rattled both Diane Sawyer and Stephanopoulos who struggled to ask good questions or follow-up appropriately throughout.
You can’t plan a “I paid for this microphone” moment, but Romney’s “silly” rebuff to Stephanopoulos was pretty close, and Newt’s following slam on how the reverse sort of question is never asked completed the rout of ABC.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2012 05:02 (fourteen years ago)
Astonishing, no. But whatever Stephanopoulos's point, it got undermined by general "Is he really asking this?" befuddlement.
Thought I heard some name like Griswold in there. It made me think of Plan 9 from Outer Space.
http://files.myopera.com/edwardpiercy/blog/Criswell-1.jpg
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 05:31 (fourteen years ago)
the nation groaned
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 January 2012 06:50 (fourteen years ago)
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx9cr7AMFg1qzxejoo1_r1_500.jpg
― mookieproof, Sunday, 8 January 2012 07:20 (fourteen years ago)
wow love that a lot
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 8 January 2012 13:02 (fourteen years ago)
is there an emoticon for santorum's expression there? Something between :) and "go fuck yourself"?
― Clay, Sunday, 8 January 2012 13:13 (fourteen years ago)
this vanity fair profile of mitt isn't quite gotcha! material but it confirms that he's a cold-hearted imperious prick underneath his veneer
― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:12 (fourteen years ago)
^^http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/02/mitt-romney-201202
― chief rocker frankie crocker (m coleman), Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:13 (fourteen years ago)
Much better this morning. (Yes, another one.) I think Perry's the only guy up there who the others still like. He's like a harmless mascot at this point--his last answer was genuinely funny.
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
Has Romney's numbers against the entire Republican primary slate ever floated much farther up than 24% or whatever?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
Nationally, I think he's still pretty close to 25%; in New Hampshire and South Carolina, though, he's well above at the moment (40-50%).
― clemenza, Sunday, 8 January 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)
it confirms that he's a cold-hearted imperious prick underneath his veneer
So another great twinning for the fall campaign. "You're likable enough, Mitt."
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 January 2012 15:14 (fourteen years ago)
jeezus, neither have most Democratic pols since Bubba; wake up.
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 January 2012 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
contraception question was relevant because romney tried to ban over-the-counter emergency contraception in MA.
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
oh mean what Obama did for the whole nation? that dangerous Mitt Romney!!
― Frobisher (Viceroy), Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
lol otm
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)
Holy shit, was there another debate this morning?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
Do these knobs actually have anything to debate, or is it all jockeying/posturing for position somewhere in Santorum's ultra conservative orbit?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 January 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)
How to play dumb
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/08/mitt_romney_and_the_power_of_playing_dumb/singleton/
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)
Romney does have an air of unfrozen caveman lawyer to him, doesn't he?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 January 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
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angry lol @ this
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 8 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
Obama needs to debate a rep from this board
― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 8 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)