Both cuts of "Out 1" coming this year on a German DVD set:
http://www.amazon.de/Out-Noli-tangere-Spectre-DVDs/dp/3898487008/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325936267&sr=8-1
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Saturday, 7 January 2012 11:39 (twelve years ago) link
Its a lost film no longer :-) Was able to source a phantom copy (w/near complete subtitles too) and spent much of the afternoon w/it.
Timing perfect, what with that in-depth look at the film. The issues bought by Mary in her article above regarding 16mm vs 35mm recordings is kinda lost on me because I think the editing and its gargutuan length seem to unify the different POVs over a period of time.
I love how L'AF records (and edits) the whole process of a work's gestation period and squares this w/a relationship between two people that is falling apart. Or more like the moments when it works and when it doesn't, or when things are on a knife-edge. Again the length of Rivette's films can every now and again seem unneccesary, but there is total pay-off in that respect, and it also allows for the v subtle flashbacks and story circularity that complicates things, but just enough, to work.
Claire in the apartment ws best tho'. Reminded me of The Conversation, as did the destruction of the flat - wonder if Coppola has seen this.
When her jealous fixation reaches a pinnacle of intensity, Claire approaches Sébastien as he sleeps and attempts to pierce his eye with a hat pin.
^ this gave me the shivers
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
just saw (and really loved) 'celine and julie go boating' - loved all the digressions and the story-within-the-story piling up and up, the camaraderie between c+j and jed OTM that the book-stealing scene is, in retrospect, really funny
― yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
glad someone enjoyed c&j, but boy was i worried when i saw this thread revived (iirc another ilxor posted that rivette was seriously ill at the moment.)
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 08:10 (twelve years ago) link
gonna see "l'amour fou".what to expect?
― nostormo, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
greatness.
― Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
j/k - haven't watched my copy of "L'amour fou" yet but I expect it's magnificent. + a young Bulle Ogier...
― Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
i'm halfway through - so the dude doesn't change his cloths for the whole movie?!
― nostormo, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
my answer was to expect length.
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 October 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
"Out 1" has been smuggled on youtube.
See you next year..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
Haha! Me too!
― Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 15 November 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
english subs?
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
and the DVD release has been put back until march next year and tbh i'd be amazed if it surfaced then given that it's been delayed a few times already.
― jed_, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Yes english subs - an old broadcast from Italian TV
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
so much better than L'amour Fou imo..
― nostormo, Thursday, 15 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
hope you're going to watch out one:spectre straight after, xyzzzzz :-)
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
the user that uploaded the movie, Rick Petaccio, is THE MAN:great cinema:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7GS1WbfteCpn4idCwmVFsw
― nostormo, Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
Can you put up a link for the last part? (I looked and couldn't figure it out.) I don't feel like watching the whole 13 hours again--but I want to see that great final shot!
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 November 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
L'Amour Fou, Le Pont du Nord, and Celine and Julie are all being screened on 35mm nearby soon. I'm prob going to see Celine and Julie but I have a short attention span and it's difficult for me to sit through entire films w/o getting sleepy, esp if they're slow (I started nodding off during the last 20 minutes of The Color of Pomegranates last night). Are the other two like OMG totally worth it?
― #REV! (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 19 August 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
I caught 35mm sceening of Le Pont du Nord last month. It's like a shorter & less whimsical C&J. It also helps if you know a little about late '70s domestic European terrorism (Mesrine, Baader-Meinhof) going in, as what story there is in the film concerns the fallout from that stuff. It's also not as easy a film to drift in and out of like you can with C&J.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 August 2013 03:20 (eleven years ago) link
I'm thinking I am only going to see one of them and it's prob going to be C&J
― #REV! (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 19 August 2013 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
The new print of C&J is very nice.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 August 2013 04:39 (eleven years ago) link
LPDN is not so hot imo but tbh there are worse things you could do with your time than go, see its deeply-hued paris & drift in & out of sleep without noticeably missing 'plot'
― szarkasm (schlump), Monday, 19 August 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago) link
L'Amour Fou has, at least in the UK, been the most difficult to see of all the major Rivettes. As I'm sure I mentioned upthread, the print shown at the National Film Theatre's complete Rivette retrospective was in terrible terrible condition - so if this is a newly struck print then that would be the one to go for, at least from a trainspottery pov (again, I don't think L'Amour Fou is available anywhere in the world on DVD, whereas C&J, as Rivette's most 'popular' film, is easily accessible, and in the UK Masters of Cinema have just brought out a new disc of Port Du Nord). L'Amour Fou was partially shot on 16mm, so when projected at 35mm those sequences have a real grainy beauty, and Bulle Ogier is amazing in it.
But from an entertainment POV, Celine and Julie is the one to go for - and the slippage between dream and reality is even more pronounced in it, making it the perfect film to drift off to.
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 August 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link
Saline & Julie tomorrow!! Is this a thing to get stoned for or will I like actually fall asleep?
― TITTWISORTH (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 6 September 2013 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
I got stoned and accidentally watched Werkmeister Harmonies once w/ some friends and it was so boring I made an excuse halfway through the film and left :-/
Saline !
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Monday, 14 October 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
Always thought it was fresh-water boating.
― Gallucci Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 October 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
It turns out that S&JGB is a v fun movie even though it is v slow and boring and you fall asleep during it
― Stevie D(eux), Monday, 14 October 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
Saw a Claire Denis documentary on him tonight. Basically a long interview with Serge Daney. Rivette's shot in a way that makes him look like Charlie Watts at times.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 October 2013 05:09 (ten years ago) link
just saw La Belle Noiseuse and yeah both Rivettes I've seen have been absolutely fucking incredible - so intense, so genuinely profound. want to live in his movies
― imago, Thursday, 27 March 2014 06:42 (ten years ago) link
Love him. I hope he's doing well.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:07 (ten years ago) link
"Celine & Julie" was one of those films that I found sooooooo tiring to sit through but when it was done I was like "Oh damn that was kind of wonderful!"
but still with no desire to ever see it again. It's like I want to have seen his films but don't want to actually have to deal w/ sitting through them.
― "Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 27 March 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
They're worth sitting through, IMHO.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link
http://sensesofcinema.com/2014/2014-melbourne-international-film-festival-dossier/thirteen-others-formed-a-strange-crew-jean-pierre-leauds-performance-in-out-1-by-jacques-rivette/
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Saturday, 12 July 2014 01:18 (ten years ago) link
Out 1 will be "restored," distributed digitally
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=16598
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:30 (nine years ago) link
i can't imagine finding 13 hours (?) to watch that!
i'm kind of a rivette agnostic. i seem to be the only cinephile in existence who doesn't like "celine and julie," though i like his later stuff (like "secret defense" and "va savoir") to different degrees. or at least i did when i saw them 10–15 years ago.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link
i seem to be the only cinephile in existence who doesn't like "celine and julie,"
hallooooo
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link
you know the story that Kael stomped out of it midway, yelling "I'm going to the movies!"
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
yeah me three tbh
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link
I mean I enjoy ~having seen~ the film but I did NOT enjoy seeing it.
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:36 (nine years ago) link
ha! I guess i'm not alone.
i watched it all the way through once, was intermittently entertained but mostly annoyed by the aggressive whimsy. tried seeing it again years later, left after about 40 minutes once i realized it was strictly diminishing returns.
i guess i'm just not on rivette-in-the-1970s wavelength.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link
i mean, i like wes anderson movies, so obviously i'm not allergic to whimsy. but i guess i felt like there was a lack of compensating virtues... like, in some cases, basic filmmaking skill. (ouch, sorry.)
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
my guess is that once more people actually see "out one" it'll largely cease to have its mystique as one of the greatest films of all time (which is mostly due to jonathan rosenbaum's hyping it for decades)
but who knows, maybe it really is an astonishment. i'll never know, frankly.
― he quipped with heat (amateurist), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:39 (nine years ago) link
i mean, there are feuillade serials--entire serials!--i've never seen, and those are way farther up in the queue.
http://www.organicmechanic.org/scratch/outsiders1.jpg
― The Stan-Reckoner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link
this is excellent news and I will watch it
― young ruffian - sick banter (imago), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link
c&jveb is easily one of the greatest movies i've seen, if i may punctuate the naysaying parade briefly, and la belle noiseuse not too far behind
― young ruffian - sick banter (imago), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link
Love Rivette and have watched both versions of Out 1. The 13 hour version is all extreme peaks and valleys. The theatre stuff gets tedious - but then I'm not a huge fan of Living Theatre-type extreme theatrics. And there's a whole lot of that here. Juliette Berto is great in this, though.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link
Also ... F*** Kael :)
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link