2012 republican presidential nominee III: can romney get santorum out of his hair?

fyi I had the phrase "white person" in my head as I was typing but apparently it didn't make it all the way to my fingers

my horrible, racist fingers ;_;

Rick Santorum is a bumblr white

a white casting it at Obama

But my family all support Obama. Why would we do this?

a white casting it at Obama in terms of race is a bald statement that he is not acting like a black person should and is unambiguously racist

Would it still be a racist statement if it was made by a black person though? I could imagine someone saying, "We as black people should be especially sensitive to human rights issues", and I don't think anyone would consider that racist. So is the offensive part presuming to speak about another group?

I find it somewhat upsetting that you have to ask that question because, as a minority in the US, it is very obvious to me.

You are also likely missing out the US right subtext of describing modern abortion as a tool used by the racist left to control the population of poor urban black people.

it's like what aero pointed out up there, santorum has the problem of deeply believing in all the half-assed justifications the right has come up with for its positions over the years, and then stating them in a way that would make a comment box troll take a second edit.

they've traded around the idea that the anti-abortion fight is just like the civil rights or anti-slavery fight, and that planned parenthood was founded with some queasy racist-eugenicist ideas about poverty that it is still trying to carry out in the present. out of santorum's mouth it comes out HIM BLACK WHY HIM NO CARE OF BLACK FETUS

they've also flipped from nakedly protecting the privileges of whites to arguing sideways that public sector redistribution has made poor people dependent and weak, and again he can barely say anything on this except I BLIEVE IN U WORK HARD LAZY NEGROS

(exactly how these two things are supposed to work in tandem is another thing...)

Sorry, I wasn't trying to argue the point, just trying to clarify things in my own mind. There's so many bizarre elements in that Santorum statement I was just trying to unpack them a bit. I know there's a context in the US by pro-life groups to try to make a racial issue out of abortion, in a way that rightly raises some hackles.

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hahahaha goole is so OTM

no worries dude, obv I am Touchy McToucherson in these conversations at times

No problem, I could have phrased my post a bit better. I second the OTM of Goole's post. When Santorum (and Gingrich and others) say things like that, I wonder who their real audience is. Are they really trying to persuade blacks with those kind of half-baked, condescending platitudes, or are they actually just scoring points with their mostly white, conservative audience by tweaking the rules of liberal media decorum?

theres something so gross about santorum invoking slavery & the history of black america with this kind of authority like he has *any clue*

its like that fucking forbes article "If I Was a Poor Black Kid"

Eh, first time I watched it I even didn't hear it, and I thought it was the wrong clip. Second time, after finding out where it is, I spotted it. I think the first time through I thought he said "making alot of people's lives better".

Not that the dick deserves a defense, but I think I follow his logic. If I was anti-abortion because I believe fetuses are people, and people have rights or civil liberties or whatever, then I would be angry that someone wanted to take away their civil liberties, particularly someone of African descent, who should know a thing or two about having your civil liberties curtailed. Still takes some massive balls and smug boneheadedness to even imply that someone of African descent need be reminded of this.

It's sort of akin to this notion that his freedom of religion is being impinged upon by people thwarting his desire to impose religion-based laws that would limit the rights of others.

what's he doing with his right hand

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killing a baby

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I lol'd so fucking hard at this, thank you both

It's in the Bible:

And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.

Rick just followin' the Bible here.

santorum is pure evil, but i sort of hope his campaign makes some hay if only to continue the shitshow of the republican party 2012. i doubt even as bad as american is we would elect a borderline insane dork that doesn't even believe in jacking off.

this is some next level shittiness

how does santorum feel about vasectomies/tubal ligations? (srsly)

how do you even get through life saying the shit he says, it is mindblowing

this is just a full on battle to see who can be the most racist now

why the fuck are ron paul people attacking jon huntsman

do they want to steal his .5% support

ron paul people think this is a ploy by the huntsman campaign to siphon votes off of ron paul

you got to give it up to these people, they bring the lols

You people know what is really sad about Jon attacking Ron??? Many Paul supporters including myself really liked Jon and would have voted for him if he became the strongest candidate! Not now, you just alienated a lot of smart motivated people!!!
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the article makes that clear but just in case people are scanning and not really paying attention:

the video was made by some deranged ron paul supporter, not the actual ron paul campaign

yeah but the actual ron paul campaign was zinging huntsman on twitter iirc

that probably set off one of the crazies

how does santorum feel about vasectomies/tubal ligations? (srsly)

Rick Santorum allies himself with Quiverfull types i.e. he is openly against contraception.

xpost oh, i see. i'd like to get a transcription of what Huntsman is saying in the video. there's a part near the end where it says "What exactly does Huntsman stand for?", followed by a clip of Huntsman speaking in Chinese to a camera, and although almost zero Chinese, i do recognize that he's saying the word "America" or "Americans" several times in the clip. it's like...uh..he appears to be representing america...in his role as the ambassador to china...

Memo to Santorum: if you're going to misspeak, go nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WEdrdoz8Z4

"the video was made by some deranged ron paul supporter, not the actual ron paul campaign"

this ad is so over the top i pretty much believe this, but there is a long tradition of unofficial "supporters" being used as proxy bulldogs to inflict damage the real campaign pretends to abhor but is happy to take advantage of

and in some cases the campaign actually orchestrates cf swiftboaters for truth etc etfc

free speech whaddya gonna do ¯\(º o)/¯

ok when mccain doubles over and makes a funny noise in that clip I lose my fucking shit

it's like he's suddenly tussling for a chew toy with somebody in the front row!

there is a long tradition of unofficial "supporters" being used as proxy bulldogs

hence that George Clooney "Obama has been a triumphant success, I am disappointed in the disappointed" interview couple weeks ago

Santorum speaks to NH college audience, turns into prissy tantrum-throwing foot stomper: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71176.html

Santorum then attacked President Obama for believing in government by “the top down.”
“We declared independence from a king who believed in government from the top down,” Santorum said, “a king who ruled by divine right, a right he believed given to him by God.”
Some kids looked at each other as if to ask: Is this going to be on the final?
“The right to life is a controversy these days,” Santorum said, adding in a mocking tone: “ ‘What are you doing in my bedroom?’ Well, the right to life has nothing to do with the bedroom!”
While everyone was grappling with that, Santorum explained that when the Declaration of Independence promised life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, it did not mean happiness as we know it today.
“Happiness is not enjoyment or pleasure,” Santorum said. “Happiness means to do the right thing. To do not what we want to do, but what we ought to do.”
Santorum also attacked the American education system “Why do we concentrate on what George Washington did wrong?” he asked. “He had slaves. If that’s all you’ve learned, you haven’t learned the great things he’s done.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71176.html#ixzz1ijrXWjeZ

^^ This man (RS) has been devoured by a catholic theologian.

Hoooly crap... keep it classy Dr. Paul!

http://www.newt.org/notromney

hence that George Clooney "Obama has been a triumphant success, I am disappointed in the disappointed" interview couple weeks ago

I missed this. That's kinda depressing; I'd have guessed based on the pretty-meh Ides that he was at least cognizant of Bam's average-politico nature. But I guess that was giving him too much credit.

When are you guys going to start calling Romney "Rom"?

http://www.bugeyedmonster.com/toys/rom/romwithboxbig.jpg

That seems more appropriate than a ny post concocted nickname!

“Why do we concentrate on what George Washington did wrong?” he asked. “He had slaves. If that’s all you’ve learned, you haven’t learned the great things he’s done.”

this is pretty far out imo, i mean obviously there is a sound objection to the way he's thinking but it is one of those telling things to be outraged by. particularly if you are embroiled in racism controversies.

registering my lols @ the anti-huntsman ad

Reporting from Manchester, N.H.— For the second time in as many days, Rick Santorum waded into the issue of gay marriage, suggesting it was so important for children to have both a father and mother that an imprisoned father was preferable to a same-sex parent.

Citing the work of one anti-poverty expert, Santorum said, "He found that even fathers in jail who had abandoned their kids were still better than no father at all to have in their children's lives."

Allowing gays to marry and raise children, Santorum said, amounts to "robbing children of something they need, they deserve, they have a right to. You may rationalize that that isn't true, but in your own life and in your own heart, you know it's true."

The Santorum Surge will soon be over as quickly as it began.

You may rationalize that that isn't true, but in your own life and in your own heart, you know it's true."

1 of the most awkwardly worded "AMIRITES?" ive ever seen

in your own life and in your own heart, you know it's true

He's just channeling Barry Goldwater.