Pauline Kael

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I'll venture to say that Kael was a great writer but a lousy watcher.

Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

wait, except dissent in an ancient print mag. never mind about the online part. maybe, good editing in general.

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

Kenny's 'response' to that Taylor article (amongst others)

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

(xp)
Didn't somebody already mention that upthread? Or maybe it was linked to by a blog that was linked to upthread.

Miss Piggy and Frodo in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

I liked the quote from Kent Jones on Kenny's page.

Miss Piggy and Frodo in Hull (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

It was folded into that Emerson essay I linked to above. The Kael revival has neatly fed into the larger film criticism memes of the year, it seems.

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

That Jones piece in Film Comment was really good.

encarta it (Gukbe), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

did they? sorry. i just saw it today. i couldn't really read the whole thing.

x-post

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

the dissent thing is instructional for me because i make notes in my head and say: okay, don't ever do that. don't ever write something like this. don't say that. etc. etc.

scott seward, Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

I liked Taylor during his late nineties Salon tenure, but his Paulette tendencies were even then rather creepy. Like most mimickers he made me appreciate how singular the original was.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 November 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

I like the word "mimicker." I want to use it, but don't want to get called out on my mimickeristic ways.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

would Kael have liked The New World? maybe Colin Farrell would've gotten to her.

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

I can't imagine Kael liking any Malick film, although I don't think she would have hated The Tree of Life quite as much as Kellow suggests. Or let me put it this way--I think she would have recognized the same beauty in the childhood section that everyone else does, and that she would have acknowledged and resisted it. All the whispered, philosophical narration, that I think she would have hated. The dinosaurs, I'm guessing she'd have found them funny. I bet she would have reviewed it more favorably than J. Edgar.

clemenza, Sunday, 20 November 2011 03:23 (fourteen years ago)

I thought she said a couple of nice-ish things about Badlands...?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 November 2011 05:41 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

I wanted to check something from Kael's What's Up, Doc? review, and it seems that Geocities page is back in operation. Not sure when it returned, or how long it will stay. Useful, in that it saves a trip downstairs. (But not this time--the line I wanted isn't in the 5001 blurb.)

http://www.geocities.ws/paulinekaelreviews/index.html

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:46 (fourteen years ago)

It may be back, but it's still geocities.

Everything You POLL Is RONG (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:13 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry, GeoCities has closed.
The GeoCities service is no longer available, but there's a lot more to explore on Yahoo!

Visit one of these popular Yahoo! sites:

buzza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

geocities.ws

Everything You POLL Is RONG (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 17 March 2012 03:35 (fourteen years ago)

what line are you looking for clemenza, i could dig it up for you

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:50 (fourteen years ago)

Found it, thanks. It had to do with a Love Story joke in WUD?:

“It’s one thing for outsiders like me to call Love Story a boobish movie, but when O’Neal, who starred in it (and gave it all the conviction it had), turns around and dumps on it, and, implicitly, on the people who loved him in it, all he does is expose his own cheap, cute cynicism.”

clemenza, Saturday, 17 March 2012 13:10 (fourteen years ago)

seven months pass...

she never said it (exactly):

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2012/10/The-Fraudulent-Factoid-That-Refuses-to-Die

crazy uncle in the attic (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

Speaking of which (xpost), I love seeing this Sullivan headline on election eve:

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/11/which-side-is-now-pauline-kael.html

clemenza, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

I long argued it would get worse before it got better on the right. It did get worse. But if Obama wins, it just might get a little better.

speaking of cognitive dissonance

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 November 2012 23:02 (thirteen years ago)

I liked Kael's last interview where she said liberals couldn't see how American Beauty pandered to them. I think she'd fill George Clooney with venom.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 November 2012 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

George is seething with venom already. I don't think she could make him any more venomous.

clemenza, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

Are there still liberals who don't see how American Beauty pandered to them?

Gukbe, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:19 (thirteen years ago)

Just me--love it. But let's save it for some other time.

clemenza, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:23 (thirteen years ago)

Sort of thought American Beauty was pandering to conservatives. Meh.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

God that movie sucked.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

Well Eric, you haven't psychoanalyzed that dick Alan Ball like I have.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

I'm psychoanalyzing your use of the word "dick" tho.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

Not a fan of that arty sitcom American Beauty, but Ball acquired a lot of good will for me with Six Feet Under. Just not enough for me to watch True Blood.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

The movie is clearly trying to be "pro-gay" "pro-sensitive-teen-rebel" and "pro-alienated-suburban-saddo," how could it be pandering to anyone but liberals in 1999?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

pro-sensitive itinerant plastic bags too

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

It seemed more like "pro-every scene ending with a laugh line," to me.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:30 (thirteen years ago)

It also sees career women as disgusting, gays as repressed murderous psychos, and littering as the cornerstone to seeing "so much beauty in the world."

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

Don't forget pro-Guess Who, and pro-1970 Firebirds.

clemenza, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

What pisses me off the most about the film, though: Spacey is amazing in it.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)

repressed gays in the military as repressed murderous psychos

fixed

Yeah, it's a showbiz, vote-Democrat-til-you-die gay liberal perspective.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

You still don't address its total misogyny. Oh right, gays.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hated Spacey in this too, ftr.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

Caveat: I haven't actually watched this dumb movie since 1999. So I could be wrong.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:37 (thirteen years ago)

me neither, and no plans to ever again

Bening just seemed to be stuck in an off-week Carol Burnett Show sketch

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

guys did you notice their house was RED WHITE AND BLUE

omg

Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

and being quite good at it; she gives the only watchable performance

xpost

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

Watched it again a few years back to re-test my opinion on it (then coloured by the fact of Todd Solondz' Happiness, from a year previous) and found that Spacey was actually good enough to keep me involved even through all of the piss poor writing, strident characterizations and sledgehammer symbolism.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)

and being quite good at it; she gives the only watchable performance

this

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:42 (thirteen years ago)

Bening's the only one who treats the material like Carol Burnett material.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

this is all kind of an insult to the carol burnett show

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)

Oh man, I just remembered how ham-fisted the portrayal of Allison Janney's character was.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:44 (thirteen years ago)


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