TS: Lewis vs Morse

re: magical Oxford - that's certainly true, ha.

Even if Morse is easily captured in the romantic aesthetic, there's something to be said for his character. Lewis, as I mentioned before, is a sad and conservative indictment of contemporary life bereft of any vitality, very depressing and not something I wish to engage with regularly.

if I'd known this many people watched Lewis I'd have turned round and gone the other way a few weeks ago when I was slobbily dressed and found my walk home covered in giant filming lights everywhere, too dazzling to work out what was actually being filmed (if anything)

saw two episodes from the first series which seemed to have some slightly unconvincing attempts at edginess shoehorned in (iirc the sidekick turned out to have ~history~ with the victim and/or main suspects of both, one of them from his time in a mysterious cult or something), but I suspect Morse must've been like that too and I was too young to notice

Morse had that ravers ep!

that's a classic one. lol.

well i think with morse the "mysterious edgy cult" was actually "behind the scenes at an oxford college" <-- ie this was groundbreaking behind-the-green-door stuff, in whodunnit-with-the-curare-tipped-blowpipe terms: but yes, the three i just saw back-to-back plus the one a passing spacecadet mentions (which i saw about a month ago) do all work the "weirdos are among us" lever a bit heavily (and hathaway seems to have to recuse himself a lot, but as noted my theory is that his backstory resets to zero every time)

right back to sherlock h, tec-fiction switches between the episodes which are subtly mundane -- "the norwood builder" -- and the eps which are pruriently exotic, pegleg lascars, secret societies, the mormons etc

xxp I do remember that one! I considered mentioning it. I don't remember any other episodes like that, but maybe it's only because rave culture was a thing I was dimly aware of, as an admittedly v sheltered 12y/o who liked the Shamen, and any other "edgy" references were completely lost on me

(checked the air date in case I'd severely miscalculated my age when seeing it, and Wikipedia says it was directed by Danny Boyle! Apologies if this was common knowledge...)

now I have read it and not just stomped past it to the Submit button, mark s's post seems wise

hoping future Lewis viewings will be improved if I take "Hathaway's backstory resets every week so he can have history with whatever any victim/suspect does" as the intentional recurring schtick of the show, rather than an accidentally overused plot point

i knew but i'd forgotten. lot of biggish writers and directors did a Morse ep

the rave one is quite bad in many ways btw

Lewis ≥ Morse >>>>>>>>>>>>> Endeavour

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I like Endeavour, but it is a bit DO YOU SEE???

Is there a Midsomer Murders thread?

Taking Sides: Midsomer Murders vs 24

Only this one, apparently.

john nettles' nipples: too close together? a visual investigation

Lewis > DCI Banks > Scott & Bailey > Morse > Silent Witness > Broadchurch >>>>>>>>> Endeavor

I liked Judge John Deed tbf but not sure it qualifies?

I can bear anything with Martin Shaw in it, so disqualified.

Fair.

Morse hasn't aged well tbh

Scott & Bailey doesn't really fit tho it's an ok show, i want to see toffs murdering each other

haven't watched Banks, nor hardly any of Broadchurch. French and Saunders have permanently rewired the other one as Witless Silence in my head

Well yeah, because he's dead... But y'know what I mean xp

Morse has definitely aged but mostly in quite a cute way imo

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Don't know their names but these three (Banks) are all just really good actors. At least in this series.

Morse feels too nostalgic for me to take completely seriously these days? Idk maybe that is indeed cute. Simpler times etc

not sure of the one on the left, Stephen Tompkinson in the middle, Doc Marten's wife on the right

i.e. same revolving cast of actors that are in everything.

i don't watch this stuff to be challenged

Same. It's comfort food.

Can't stand that one with Brenda Blethyn in it, dressed all dowdy, though it has got Jon Morrison in it.

Vera isn't terrible but too seedy again, like most of Frost for that matter

and i kinda like Dalziel and Pascoe against my better instincts, it's basically a celebration of twattery

Vera gives lots of actors the chance to "Tak like that, man. I divven't kna what's happened to wor lass, like". And Alun Armstrong isn't even in it.

New Tricks! liked that before all the good actors left/died

I can't take Brenda Blethyn's crap Geordie accent

My mum loves it though, and every other show mentioned above. I was wondering whether to recommend Game of Thrones to her (too violent?) until we watched a Silent Witness where a lead character got his skull crushed and his body set on fire

I like the Dalziel and Pascoe books, never saw the show.

I've read most of if not all of the Banks books. Still laughing that one book was about a Mojo writer getting murdered while writing an article about Not At All Syd Barrett.

its been on in the background as i do the dishes and i feel very very strongly that nobody involved in endeavour should be paid to be so

Roger Allan's solid enough. I've watched very few of them tho, it's not a patch on its 2 companion serieses

I typed Allam, my phone is a dick

i love roger allam but the scene i caught was parody dressed as historical drama

It's no Heartbeat

endeavour sends me into instant anachronism hives every fucking episode: someone always uses a spoken phrase no one used before 1995

of all the "classic prog rock band gets back together then one of them is murdered" stories in all the brit-tec series, the lewis one is way worst

A Blairite with long term memory loss is found as a stunning new exhibit at the Museum of Human Disease. Suspicion falls on Little Crosby’s professional clown guild, angry that sex-toy anarchists might threaten to upset their plans for world domination.

— Midsomer Murders Bot (@midsomerplots) December 3, 2018

also a handy bit of pub quiz knowledge: the number of villages in midsomer murders called midsomer ____________

answer here, but guess before you look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsomer_Murders#List_of_fictional_villages_in_Midsomer

Endeavour gets better iirc. It’s preferable to Lewis.

i am happily not in the position of being forced to choose

there are v many things that get better that are still better off left id say

the endeavour on right now features a suicide or possibly murder in a TV studio absurdly closely based on thunderbirds complete with gerry and sylvia anderson lookeylikeys

TOO MUCH SWINGING NOT ENOUGH PUPPETRY

just seen this mentioned on Facebook and am looking forward to a repeat as soon as possible