Occupy Wall Street 3: Now What?

was not expecting the ending of that video to be so inspiring

watched the last half of it three times

re: Occupy Oakland
Tim Simons, 28, an organizer with the group, said Occupy activists had picked the site because groups representing businesses in the area - including the Chamber of Commerce and the Lake Merritt-Uptown District Association - were "our enemies."

I really wish they'd camp in the park with that horrible Remember Them public sculpture that was basically corporate money doing an end run around duly elected and appointed government bodies. It does sound like their new site is closer to that, at least.

http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/

Those they could not separate, they pepper-sprayed directly in the face, holding these students as they did so. When students covered their eyes with their clothing, police forced open their mouths and pepper-sprayed down their throats.

! :(

I've been lurking on this thread for a while and that video has depressed and angered me. I'm in the UK and don't have a lot of money at the moment, but I'm wondering. Is there a site you can send money to that can help with the legal costs of the protesters? No country should be doing that to their citizens. Hope you all come out of this for the better. Apologies for the rambling.

chris hedges pulls out all the stops:

The rogues’ gallery of Wall Street crooks, such as Lloyd Blankfein at Goldman Sachs, Howard Milstein at New York Private Bank & Trust, the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers and Jamie Dimon at JPMorgan Chase & Co., no doubt think it’s over. They think it is back to the business of harvesting what is left of America to swell their personal and corporate fortunes. But they no longer have any concept of what is happening around them. They are as mystified and clueless about these uprisings as the courtiers at Versailles or in the Forbidden City who never understood until the very end that their world was collapsing.

at UC Davis:

http://i.imgur.com/EyAAR.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/v/BjnR7xET7Uo&fs=1&hl=en

UC Davis Police Chief Annette Spicuzza said it would not be safe or sustainable for demonstrators to camp in the quad.

"It's not safe for multiple reasons," Spicuzza said

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45364967/ns/us_news-life/

― Chris S, Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:42 AM (8 hours ago)

i know this is 'legal' in the sense that, like, police can do anything, but how can this happen in broad daylight? i just don't get it

not sure if that's legal in any sense!

Chris Hedges has been on this tip for years now; I wonder how invigorated he is that shit is actually happening.

I saw somewhere that Cali courts have said that pepper-spraying people who aren't being actively violent or physically confrontation is excessive use of force - which puts the pigs squarely in the wrong.

haha:

http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/19/8896362-exclusive-lobbying-firms-memo-spells-out-plan-to-undermine-occupy-wall-street-video

OWS bears many of the hallmarks of a well-funded effort and media reports have speculated about associations with George Soros and others. It will be vital to understand who is funding it and what their backgrounds and motives are. If we can show they have the same cynical motivation as a political opponent it will undermine their credibility in a profound way.

btw occupy portland has surprise-occupied another park: http://www.portlandoccupier.org/2011/11/19/n19/

Again, when you swim in nothing but the fecal stew of American rightwing politics, you can't really help but assuming & projecting that all politics is as authoritarian and hierarchical as your own. Some insanely rich sugar daddy always must be behind it all, right?

Caribou Barbie talkin' all 99ish!

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/18/palin_embraces_ows/singleton/

― Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Friday, November 18, 2011 5:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Good example of how the conversation has changed. If the grossest opportunists who will tilt whichever way the wind blows get on board ... well, that's probably the type of douchebags you need on your side to get anything done.

Another one I saw but can't dig up right now was someone asked Boehner about OWS being bad for Republicans and instead of saying "well Obama loves those dirty hippies and the true American people will make him pay" his response was something like "Isn't Obama the largest recipient of Wall Street campaign cash?" Which is true but it's weird to hear a Republican tarring a Democrat as being "too in bed with Wall Street."

uc davis calls for chancellor's resignation after the pepper spray incident

http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/

not uc davis at large, but one very courageous assistant professor who doesn't have tenure

whoops yeah "professor" was excised from that post somehow, i do read links before i post them i swear

and yeah that dude is pretty ballsy

dude's a champ. and it's a nice uncompromising letter. chancellor and police chief's voicemails both full as of 9 this morning, unsurprisingly.

for what it's worth cops have been pulling this shit with pepper spray since the mid-90's, after court cases involving abortion clinic protests established precedence for responding to nonviolent demonstrators w/"non-lethal" force. during the Redwood Summer in 97 (I think?) they were swabbing it into people's eyes with q-tips, and spraying my friends in the balls. so sadly this is nothing new.

Meanwhile, in Montreal...

Mayor Gérald Tremblay ... says campers in Victoria Square can keep protesting corporate greed (so long as they don’t build wooden structures.) As he put it on Monday: “We won’t let other cities’ decisions distract us. ... Montreal will show that it’s capable of living in harmony.” (link)

Occupy Montreal protesters spent the better part of Friday dismantling wooden structures and pulling down empty tents in Victoria Square as per the city’s request. The 18 wooden structures that had been erected as more permanent shelter against the coming cold were deemed unsafe by the fire department, and 15 tents that are no longer occupied were also removed. “We’re eager to do this because tonight (Friday) we’re getting our new arctic military tents,” said Paul Bode from the site. (link)

goddamn i love that city.

I've been lurking on this thread for a while and that video has depressed and angered me. I'm in the UK and don't have a lot of money at the moment, but I'm wondering. Is there a site you can send money to that can help with the legal costs of the protesters? No country should be doing that to their citizens. Hope you all come out of this for the better. Apologies for the rambling.

would donate here: http://www.nlg.org/

no idea how active they've been outside of ny, but for zuccotti they've been doing all the legal stuff

Yes Men call drum circle at Bloomberg's townhouse tom'w at 2:

http://yeslab.org/drumcircle

ugh.

^

what's that supposed to accomplish exactly

if it pisses off the old closet queen, I'm for it

UC Davis pepper spraying is currently a top story on Yahoo!:

http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-pepper-spraying-uc-davis-protesters-173659159.html

Also from Yahoo! front page:

http://news.yahoo.com/us-lobbyists-aimed-smear-occupy-wall-street-report-203329702.html

would donate here: http://www.nlg.org/

no idea how active they've been outside of ny, but for zuccotti they've been doing all the legal stuff

― iatee, Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these guys are handling lots of portland defenses too, including mine.

So has Obama or the administration responded at all to police brutality?

If cops start getting reprimanded for this stuff we are going to see less and less enthusiasm to carck down on protests. It's hard for me to imagine this won"t happen with these videos posted all over the place.

So has Obama or the administration responded at all to police brutality?

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, November 19, 2011 5:58 PM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/307851_10150943650055109_557305108_21546938_507057394_n.jpg

Perhaps not actually defending the protesters is enough of a statement.

the right to peaceful assembly, not the right to peacefully assemble tents amirite

right to peaceful assembly:

http://www.wvculture.org/goldenseal/winter07/images/marxtoys.jpg

― tracy mcgr8080

loool

What the fuck has Obama done so far wrt OWS??

Not a damn thing. He's been out of the country for several days.

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/11/19/111911-news-tampa-tank/

meanwhile, in Florida, they're sending in their APC/tank-thing.

http://downloads.thedaily.com/photos/2011/11/18/111911-news-tampa-tank-1-662w.jpg

Because it's florida.

"RESCUE 2"

I...what...

y'know, when civilians start standing in front of that tank, that is really not going to be creating the kind of photos that the police or the government or anyone really wants to be getting out there

they bust that thing out in tampa during spring break all the time nbd

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310899_253602618031227_100001444721412_776081_2059955155_n.jpg

is there a HATERS GONNA HATE using that photo yet?

^^^that was the v first thing that came to mind when i say that

messed up priorities :-/

>they bust that thing out in tampa during spring break all the time nbd

good to know. in the same way that using pepper spray against citizens has apparently been standard operating procedure for nearly 20 years now without any outrage or reporting, I imagine most cops are wondering what the sudden big deal is

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ostertag/uc-davis-protest_b_1103039.html