A new 30 Rock thread because I can't find the old one

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The minute a date mentioned Mark Russell I would be out the door.

Nicole, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, after all the Arrested Development compare-and-contrast, this week's episode was way more AD-ish -- more scattershot plotting, not really invested in arc resolution, etc. Which, yeah, I don't think works as well for this show. Plus to be honest I think the "Social Awkwardness Involving Behavior Toward Member of Minority Group" comedy has been done to death on TV at this point, like from Seinfeld episodes toThe Office (UK, plus kinda US, too) and back to Curb Your Enthusiasm -- it's gone past boring and predictable to being actively annoying as a comedy subject, I think.

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure why but that post just reminded me of Grizz/Dot Com's only appearance in this ep: "we're NOT doing that".

nickalicious, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I hope the increased level of dullness in this episode isn't the start of a trend. OTOH, it's still better than anything else out there and I laughed at the coworker's reaction to the "leather pumpkin" comment.

Bnad, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

nabisco OTM. I had the same problems with the episode. But like I said, watching it a second time, I realized Tracy Morgan can save anything from being a total disaster.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 March 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

it's gone past boring and predictable to being actively annoying as a comedy subject, I think.

Normally I would agree with this, and would cite Extras as another example of same, but I think that's part of the reason why I enjoyed the ludicrous conversation on their date even more.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I still have enough white guilt that white guilt jokes still work on me. There are good ones and bad ones, though. These: decent. Larry David: over-the-top descent into nightmare.

kenan, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

"What is it with men and guns??"

"Well I think I speak for the both of us when I say...coz they're metal penises."

Gukbe, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

This was a much better example of it, but still. I'd totally forgotten Extras on that front -- Gervaise kept coming back to it in season, to an extent that abandons reality in really weird ways. (E.g. it's just TOO bizarre and jarring to imagine that adult film extras in London would be unable to talk to normal middle-class non-white people without embarrassing themselves.)

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

white guilt jokes still hilarious

sanskrit, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

"This mess is gonna get raw like sushi, so hatas to the left" is my new catchphrase.

musically, Friday, 2 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

i seriously can not get enough of kenneth

tehresa, Friday, 2 March 2007 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's what she sai

wait

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I think I know why I liked this racial awkwardness bit more than I normally like it in things. Because I don't get the sense that there actually is any underlying racism in the character. I believe Liz Lemon is not a racist. All those other guys, well... I wouldn't be so sure.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that does make it come off lighter, but it still means having to reach to implausible actions and events to make the awkwardness exist at all -- having the guy randomly accuse her of racism in the first place (an absurd, impossible event whose absurdity is totally passed over here), and then having her react in ways that are just as racially bumbling as a Gervaise thing (her pointed hello to the person in the elevator is realistic and funny, but pronouncing "Amanda" the way she does is fairly nonsensical).

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

comedy is a motherfucker, innit nabs?

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Comedy tends to work better when people's motivations and reactions make sense, no matter how ridiculous the situations they're put in!

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh come on, the aman-da thing was perfect

cutty, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I'm not saying it wasn't totally funny, just that 30 Rock can do way better than stretching for the sloppy seconds of awkward-race-thing humor!

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I preferred Kenneth's "I will try the other location, but franky, Ladonica, I don't think you've been very helpful."

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

my friend sent me one of those alec baldwin msgs on my voicemail, it was pretty funny!

and what, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

What's your schedule mañana? Cuz this is gonna be ooone serious negosh.

Loved that guy.

Øystein, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Kenneth's annunciation and emphasis on certain words in his lines is what kills me the most.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 March 2007 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

katrina bowden (cerie) was born in 1988. it is now becoming more and more commonplace for actors and actresses on my favourite shows/films to be more than five years younger than me, and I'm beginning to feel old.

Gukbe, Saturday, 3 March 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

I started high school in 1988.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 3 March 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I started kindergarten in 1988.

A gag thrown away in the midst of a big gag: Tracy has a beef with MC Skat Kat

Is this week the last one before the hiatus?

C. Grisso/McCain, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

What was the line that Tracy had about going through the stages of grief with anger, denial, horniness... Boy oh boy did I LOL. I was sort of iffy on this show but I'm on board now, thanks mostly to this last episode. (they're metal penises! HA!) The reactions I read here make me think I need to start at the beginning for maximum funny.

Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

jenny this show has effectively killed thirsty thursdays as we knew them. at least until after the may sweeps. ;_;

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is that what happened? Surely there's a bar in this shithole city where we could combine our shared love of drunkenness and clever situation comedy! We can't let NBC tear us apart like this.

Jenny, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

i've taken to going out after 30 rock. i've found that if i leave when it ends it takes me about an hour to get to the bar in uptown. best of both worlds.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

I love 30 Rock but I am excited for Andy Richter's new show. I hope it's more "Andy Richter Controls the Universe" than "Quintuplets".

musically, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

On Thursday evening, Nathan Lane guest stars as Jack's (Alec Baldwin) bad brother on the last "30 Rock" (NBC, 9:30 p.m. EST) before the show goes on hiatus

!!!

musically, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

There will be more. And re-watching the episodes is still fun.

kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to miss this terribly for the next five weeks (after tonight).

There's another show starting next Thursday on NBC too with Jeff Goldblum, but what's it replacing? Is it 30 or 60 mins? If the Office goes on hiatus, Thursdays will return to suckitude.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 March 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, here are tracy's stages of grief: fear, denial, horniness, wisdom, sleepiness, depression.

i stopped my vcr and rewound last week so i could write them down.

JuliaA, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

"wisdom" was totally the stage that made me laugh in that bit.

the Goldblum show, Raines, is a 60 minute drama, and it's actually going in the 10pm timeslot, so it won't effect the comedy block. is that the first time anything has been put in ER's timeslot, even temporarily, like, ever?

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, whew! ER's a dinosaur and needs a break. I like Goldblum and may check it out (like I need to watch more tv anyway).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

ER was at least part of the remaining 15% of shows on TV where nobody communicates with ghosts.

nabisco, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Since the dawn of man ER.

If the new Thursday lineup becomes Earl -> Office -> Andy Richter -> 30 Rock -> Raines I will literally dance around this office right.

nickalicious, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

where would scurbs go? they can't cancel it, they just gave braff an assload more money.

kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

Scrubs used to do alright in its Tuesday slot, but now the network's lacking another sitcom of any worth to support a move. They should give Patton Oswalt a show of his own.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

How about a totally sincere West Wing-style show, except Brian Posehn plays the president?

nabisco, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nah. Dude's got a face for comedy if anyone ever did.

kenan, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'd actually like to see a trad-style sitcom featuring all the players from the Comedians of Comedy tour. 30 new minutes of Maria Bamford every week would by heavenly.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 March 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

"Take care of my family, I don't want my kids to have to go to college!"

ryan, Friday, 9 March 2007 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

"I believe there are 31 letters in the white alphabet."

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 March 2007 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or missing the highbrow premise of my awesome President Posehn idea!

nabisco, Friday, 9 March 2007 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Disney jail

A B C, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

St. Michael and St. Patrick , Tip O'Neill and Bobby Sands , Bono and Sandra Day O'Connor

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

now i dont gotta have my parties in international waters

and what, Friday, 9 March 2007 03:30 (nineteen years ago)


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